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Russell W. Wood, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: woodr5678

Post Number: 100
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have a client that wants to limit the use of the elevator(s) (2-3 stories) to movers, custodians, and the disabled. Rather than have hall station push buttons they plan to give the disabled hall station access keys...my client says this meets accessibility requirements, but I'm not so sure?
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 815
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Whether it meets the code, why? What if someone twists their ankle over the weekend? Do they need to go through some process to get a card that day? How about the guy bringing in the sandwich platter? or the pregnant women? or the overweight man?

This is the antithesis of accessibility if there ever was one. I see accessibility in a much broader sense than just to service those in the greatest need of it. Plus, the owner will have spent many tens of thousands of dollars for this equipment--why not use it?
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 683
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 12:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Is the client also going to limit the use of accessible toilet stalls?
Christopher E. Grimm, CSI, CCS, LEED®-AP, MAI, RLA
Senior Member
Username: tsugaguy

Post Number: 116
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Any other elevators in the facility? What occupancies/uses?
Russell W. Wood, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: woodr5678

Post Number: 101
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 01:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Mr. Grimm,

The building type in question is a school.
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 684
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 03:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have seen this in schools before. The thought process concerns abuse by students who "ride" the elevator for a lark rather than use the stairs. The problem is the occasional visitor needing accessibility or the temporary user. Is the office in an accessible location so that those concerns could be addressed easily?
David J. Wyatt
Senior Member
Username: david_j_wyatt_csi_ccs_ccca

Post Number: 91
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 04:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I actually had a client inquire about having the elevators be coin-operated to discourage their use. Not kidding!

As an alternative, he requested that the elevators operate very slowly to encourage people to use the stairs.

He also wanted parking meters installed in the parking lots and pay toilets in the building. He envisioned using all this revenue to maintain the building.

This is the sort of client you wish your competitors had.

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