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Ron Beard CCS
Senior Member
Username: rm_beard_ccs
Post Number: 198
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 12:57 pm: |    |
Of the many flush wood door manufacturer's furnishing LEED certified doors, which has the best quality and least time delays? |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 860
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 01:13 pm: | |
The one located within 500 miles of the project site. |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 547
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 01:21 pm: | |
there is no such thing as a "LEED certified door". you may be talking about a FSC certified wood door... and those are in short availability and require long lead times.
LEED certifies projects, not products. |
Ron Beard CCS
Senior Member
Username: rm_beard_ccs
Post Number: 199
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 01:26 pm: | |
Thanks, Anna and David.
Most of my projects are in the Washington - Baltimore area.
Anne, can you give me an idea as to how long a lead time one would expect? |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 548
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 02:31 pm: | |
depends on the veneer you want as much as anything. I don't believe there are any AA grade veneers at all available in FSC wood for any purpose. For the A grade ones, it could be as short as 3 months, or as long as a year or more. projects I've worked on with FSC wood (doors and paneling) have had lead times of 12-15 months and usually the owner ends up buying the veneers and turning them over to the contractor at the appropriate time. I don't know the east coast market, though -- most of my work has been on the west coast.
I've heard however that getting FSC veneers is becoming more difficult because the demand is up and the suppliers have not increased enough. |
Michael D Chambers FAIA FCSI
Senior Member
Username: sbamdc
Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 06:54 pm: | |
Two comments:
Anne's suggestion about the Owner early ordering veneers is excellent. Often most of the extended lead times in wood doors is in obtaining veneers.
While FSC materials are significant, I would offer that door construction is critical to obtaining sustainable wood doors. Using engineered composite materials for cores, stiles, and rails can extend the life cycle of a wood door tremendously. Engineered composities generally have much better screw holding capacities.
Also factory finishing doors provides more environmentally acceptable and abuse resistant finishes. |
Peggy White, CSI, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 07:32 pm: | |
FSC Certified wood doors are not all about the veneer - but rather it is about the percentage of wood products within the door that are FSC Certified. FSC Certified wood products, including wood doors, are probably more available than you think. There are several excellent search engines for finding FSC wood products:
http://www.fscus.org/faqs/fsc_products.php?link=1
Or you can just google 'fsc wood doors' and get plenty of options.
To qualify for LEED Credit MR 7.0, Certified Wood, the doors can be specifed several ways - you can include the veneer, or not. The veneer is a small percentage of the wood door product. Just as when you want to pre-select flitches, planning ahead is a good idea.
In addition to shopping via google, you can also use the Scientific Certifications Systems (SCS) to obtain verification of FSC claims: http://www.scscertified.com/forestry/PDFS/BulletinCOCCurrentWebPost.pdf |
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