Roof assembly for rooftop dog walk

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Author Message Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wyancey Post Number: 353 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 03:17 pm:    Requesting suggestions for a roofing system that will stand up as a rooftop dog walk. Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 560 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 03:23 pm:    A green roof - with trees and fire hydrants? Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: awhitacre Post Number: 527 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 03:36 pm:    I would go "green roof" or perhaps a sport type surfacing -- like the type used for running tracks. Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing Post Number: 595 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 03:52 pm:    Nothing "gooey" that a well-placed paw can't get into-- literally-- on a hot day. Also, a lighter color for less heat retention and perhaps a "leafy" surface similar to outdoor carpet may tend to cool the surface. Oh, yes, but this goes with roofing-- washable!!! Ron Beard CCS Senior Member Username: rm_beard_ccs Post Number: 190 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 05:20 pm:    Lynn: You've made my day. Bob Woodburn Senior Member Username: bwoodburn Post Number: 184 Registered: 01-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 05:59 pm:    If you use a light color, don't make it too light, or the glare could hurt the eyes on a really sunny day. (I realized this while walking across a Travertine plaza on one of those days...) Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP Senior Member Username: redseca2 Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 07:08 pm:    If you need tough and non-chewable, I would think about some type of protected membrane roof. The product doing the protecting could be Pavers big enough to pass the ASTM "Pit Bull Masonry Unit Pull Test" or a fluid-applied lightweight concrete. Anonymous   Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 11:31 am:    My first thought is urine and feces. Working on animal shelter years ago, big issue was effect of urine on floors; urine highly affects/deteriorates more "commonly-used" materials/finishes and one has to consider high(er) performance systems/finishes. Any roofing/walk surfacing system been tested for affects of urine? (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 06:51 pm:    "Any roofing/walk surfacing system been tested for affects of urine?" Perhaps not officially... or do they have an ASTM for that, too? (Pit Bulls? Really? :-D ) I think a green roof with pavers has the advantage of two substances that have withstood the test of time with respect to excrement: Dirt and concrete pavers (unless there's something about concrete pavers I'm not aware of). The dirt would have to be of sufficent depth to absorb the urine, or it will reach the bed and you're back to square one. Not sure how you'd determine that, though. Is this a high-dog-traffic area? Helaine K. (Holly) Robinson CSI CCS CCCA Senior Member Username: hollyrob Post Number: 319 Registered: 07-2003 Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:17 pm:    Isn't a dog on a roof automatically a "high dog?" Tracy Van Niel, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: tracy_van_niel Post Number: 219 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 01:35 pm:    Speaking as someone who has small dogs, any type of paver would have to be close enough together that it wouldn't cause a problem with small paws possibly getting stuck or slipping off an edge and causing an injury. And, I can tell you that heat coming off the surface would be a concern because it's very easy for the pads on the dog's feet to get burned. While urine and feces are a concern and something to take into consideration when determining the walking surface, including shade and possible seating would be nice for people to take a breather if they wish. Including stations that have disposable bags for the dog owners to use to collect the waste (in case they didn't bring their own) and companion waste containers would be highly recommended. I would like to think that most people are responsible dog owners who pick up after their dogs but you also need to make it as easy as possible to dispose of the waste once it is picked up. Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing Post Number: 607 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 02:30 pm:    C'mon, Tracy, it's in a bag-- just toss it over the edge of the roof!!!!! [without revealing yourself to people below] Tracy Van Niel, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: tracy_van_niel Post Number: 220 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 02:53 pm:    I know you're joking, Ralph, but that would sure be the quickest way to get the dogwalk removed. Since I show my dogs in conformation and we also participate in performance events, I can tell you it is becoming harder and harder to find hotel/motels that accept pets because of the irresponsible dog owners that are out there that do not pick up after their dogs. Here's my dog-related website if you'd like to see at least "my" good dogs! www.aardehondbts.com Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 570 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 09:26 am:    Seriously, probably the easiest would be an extensive green roof with compacted gravel paths, and the amenities that Tracy suggests. A more wonderful solution would be an intensive green roof, providing shade in addition to the paths. I'd include a watering station for the dog's sake. (I also think the humans would appreciate a fake fire hydrant or 2) Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing Post Number: 609 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 09:50 am:    Tracy, my wife and daughter are conformation people too; my wife also does agility and obiedence. My daughter is a non-practicing vet-tech and a registered AKC handler, very talented in the ring; very knowlegeable and successful [for a part-timer; easily goes head-to-head with the professional handlers, and wins]. We had one guy get an Award fo Merit at Westminster one year-- real hoot! They will be in Eaton,OH this weekend. Me-- I stay home and act a kennel boys [and to those of you who perceive that as me going to the dogs-- you're right!!!] Tracy Van Niel, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: tracy_van_niel Post Number: 221 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 04:24 pm:    Ralph: We'll have to talk at the convention this year!! I didn't go to Eaton (was practicing earthdog in Dayton instead on those two days) but my breeder was there and she got a Group 1 both days with my girl's father! Phil Kabza Senior Member Username: phil_kabza Post Number: 253 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 10:33 am:    A little clear, concise, correct, and complete is needed here. I'm assuming that the conformance, agility, and obedience applies to the dogs shown by Ralph's wife and daughter and Tracy's breeder, and not to the individual humans referred to; other readings are possible that could give rise to claims and disputes. Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing Post Number: 615 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 07:10 am:    Mr. Kabza, the give away is in my post-- "my wife also does.....obiedence" Now you've got to know that not true!!! Tracy Van Niel, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: tracy_van_niel Post Number: 222 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 09:29 am:    You are correct, Phil ... there's a whole 'nuther language when you're talking "dog", ha!