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Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
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Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 448
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 08:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

1) does anyone still make hollow metal doors that have applied wood veneers?
2) what has your experience been with these products?
on one project, we're being told that for 2 hour doors that a veneered HM door will be cheaper than a "regular" 2 hour wood door; any examples you have will be useful. Location: New York City
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 800
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 09:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Steelcraft makes them. They are called "Graintech".

http://www.steelcraft.com/pc_doors_graintechseries.asp

After examing samples, we decided that they did were not very pretty and looked fake.
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: geverding

Post Number: 251
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 09:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Total Door does, but that probably takes you up the price ladder, rather than down.
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 229
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 10:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I believe the Graintech doors simulate wood, but do not use wood veneers.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
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Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 449
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 01:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

yes, I saw the Steelcraft ones but they are "simulated" wood. 20 years ago, or so, before we could get rated wood doors, I think we used to actually veneer steel doors. the only time I've done that recently was for expensive sound rated doors for recording studios. Those doors, though, have all the sound sweeps and other expensive stuff attached to them.
Melissa J. Aguiar, CSI, CCS, MAI, SCIP
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Username: melissaaguiar

Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 01:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have used Total Doors on several projects for same situation and they are pricy, just like Mr. Everding said previously. I will try to remember if I used any other manufacturer for this situtation...
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wyancey

Post Number: 281
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 03:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Anne,

I have laminated plastic laminate to hollow metal doors but stile edge treatment is critical. Perhaps a wood grain look-alike plam is worth considering. I have seen some plams that look tasteful.

Wayne

PS We ordered a lunch for you yesterday at GB and shared it amoung 9 specifiers. We never had the "last lunch" with you.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 450
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Wayne:
the plastic laminate isn't going to work here (and it would never had worked at ZGF, either). turns out that the team didn't need a "metal door" they needed a "mineral core" door.... staff education is the same no matter where you are working....
as for the lunch -- I hope it was the salmon caesar that I usually get....
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wyancey

Post Number: 286
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 06:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Anne,

Makes you wonder how they got this far.

Today I was asked by a Project Manager what "c/w" means in a notation.

A good example of why not to use abbreviations in notations when there is ample room to spell it out as "complete with."

Wayne
Phil Kabza
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Username: phil_kabza

Post Number: 234
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Anne,
I hope the salmon you didn't eat was from sustainably-managed schools. Or herds. Or whatever them green salmon run around in.

Phil

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