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Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 448
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 08:13 pm: |    |
1) does anyone still make hollow metal doors that have applied wood veneers?
2) what has your experience been with these products?
on one project, we're being told that for 2 hour doors that a veneered HM door will be cheaper than a "regular" 2 hour wood door; any examples you have will be useful. Location: New York City |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 800
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 09:29 pm: | |
Steelcraft makes them. They are called "Graintech".
http://www.steelcraft.com/pc_doors_graintechseries.asp
After examing samples, we decided that they did were not very pretty and looked fake. |
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding
Post Number: 251
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 09:34 pm: | |
Total Door does, but that probably takes you up the price ladder, rather than down. |
Sheldon Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: sheldon_wolfe
Post Number: 229
Registered: 01-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 10:19 pm: | |
I believe the Graintech doors simulate wood, but do not use wood veneers. |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 449
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 01:01 pm: | |
yes, I saw the Steelcraft ones but they are "simulated" wood. 20 years ago, or so, before we could get rated wood doors, I think we used to actually veneer steel doors. the only time I've done that recently was for expensive sound rated doors for recording studios. Those doors, though, have all the sound sweeps and other expensive stuff attached to them. |
Melissa J. Aguiar, CSI, CCS, MAI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: melissaaguiar
Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 01:27 pm: | |
I have used Total Doors on several projects for same situation and they are pricy, just like Mr. Everding said previously. I will try to remember if I used any other manufacturer for this situtation... |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wyancey
Post Number: 281
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 03:03 pm: | |
Anne,
I have laminated plastic laminate to hollow metal doors but stile edge treatment is critical. Perhaps a wood grain look-alike plam is worth considering. I have seen some plams that look tasteful.
Wayne
PS We ordered a lunch for you yesterday at GB and shared it amoung 9 specifiers. We never had the "last lunch" with you. |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 450
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:27 pm: | |
Wayne:
the plastic laminate isn't going to work here (and it would never had worked at ZGF, either). turns out that the team didn't need a "metal door" they needed a "mineral core" door.... staff education is the same no matter where you are working....
as for the lunch -- I hope it was the salmon caesar that I usually get.... |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wyancey
Post Number: 286
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 06:05 pm: | |
Anne,
Makes you wonder how they got this far.
Today I was asked by a Project Manager what "c/w" means in a notation.
A good example of why not to use abbreviations in notations when there is ample room to spell it out as "complete with."
Wayne |
Phil Kabza
Senior Member
Username: phil_kabza
Post Number: 234
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:52 pm: | |
Anne,
I hope the salmon you didn't eat was from sustainably-managed schools. Or herds. Or whatever them green salmon run around in.
Phil |
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