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Author Message Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 252 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 12:40 pm:    Has anyone specified this product for interior steel framing and found it to save money as its manufacturer, Dietrich, claims? Richard Howard, AIA CSI CCS Senior Member Username: rick_howard Post Number: 88 Registered: 07-2003 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 01:44 pm:    It is my understanding that Dietrich now only makes framing with this product designation. So, if you include Dietrich in your specs as a manufacturer, you have implicitly specified Ultrasteel. Notwithstanding their recommended spec language changes to the contrary, Ultrasteel framing complies with all currently referenced industry standards. Therefore, changes to your specs to include this product are superfluous. I should add that I appreciate the innovation introduced with this product with respect to saving material and that I will continue to include Dietrich as a listed manufacturer. I have not heard of Ultrasteel showing up on any of our projects, so I cannot comment on any realized cost savings. Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing Post Number: 448 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 01:51 pm:    We had a recent lunch and learn from Dietrich. Info was products in markets up east, and to be rolled out as far west as Louisville, Ky during July-August; moving slowly westward thereafter. Understand this is now projected as their standard. Lighter "gauge" [thickness] material with dimpling that makes it stronger overall [new design tables available] By the bye, this is a process from another source that Dietrich has purchased. Same also available through Clark-Western, so it is competitive! Don Harris CSI, CCS, CCCA, AIA Senior Member Username: don_harris Post Number: 81 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:08 pm:    It is being used on a large project now. It showed up about half way through. (with a proper submittal and explanation, of course) The contractor loves the stuff. Handles better, cuts better, is more forgiving, can hang by itself (temporarily) in a ceiling track without the use of screws (but you gotta put the screws in later). Foreman said it saves labor ($$$). I was also told by Dietrich that this is the way they are making them now. Seems like a good thing. I was pretty impressed when I saw it at CSI in March. Helaine K. (Holly) Robinson CSI CCS CCCA Senior Member Username: hollyrob Post Number: 245 Registered: 07-2003 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:10 pm:    I received samples Monday afternoon - UPS brought them. Anybody else? David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: davidcombs Post Number: 158 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:43 pm:    We received samples here as well. Not addressed to me, not sure who they were addressed to; They apparently just showed up. Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 253 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 05:14 pm:    Hmmm, maybe that's how we got the request, maybe our client received samples in the mail as well...you know if someone collected all these samples and sent them to Ralph, maybe he could build something....Hey, where's our samples? Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 254 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 06:16 pm:    Unbelieveable, like manna from heaven, at my doorstep, late this afternoon, the Ultrasteel sample has arrived, boy and I thought we were on somebody's s____ list.....now if I can only get my clients to pay their Invoices this fast. George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding Post Number: 201 Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 06:23 pm:    "05:14 pm - Hey, where's our samples?" "06:16 pm - at my doorstep...the Ultrasteel sample has arrived" Once again proving the power of the 4specs.com discussuon board to get things done quickly? Colin should market this one! Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wyancey Post Number: 161 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 07:52 pm:    Is this for interiors only [SSMA minimum thicknesses (mils) 18, 27, and 30 (drywall)]? Light gage metal studs for interiors used to come dimpled to aid the tip of the screws to catch and not wander. Worked also. Wayne Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing Post Number: 450 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 06:57 am:    Well, see Jerome, when you're "really, really" good you see an ad; invite the rep in for lunch and learn, and embarass him into leaving the samples [actually he didn't want to be bothered in carrying them back to his car!]. Then you don't have to wait and wonder about the samples. But then getting samples, means you're on somebody's list! Duane Jonlin, AIA, CSI, CDT (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 10:55 am:    Any word on screw withdrawal resistance for Ultrasteel?