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Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 56
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 04:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am preparing technical literature for a fireplace manufacturer. Currently, some of their section drawings show the firebox opening to the left side of the drawing, and others show the the firebox opening to the right side of the drawing.

I believe they should be consistent and would like to know if their is a standard or widely accepted convention for how to present a fireplace section.

The same question could be applied to window sections, cabinet sections, etc.

Are the terms "first angle projection" and "third angle projection" widely understood in the architecture business? Which is used?

Does National CAD Standards define this? Corps of Engineers? Other standards setting organization?
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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J. Peter Jordan
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Username: jpjordan

Post Number: 851
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 10:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The terms "first angle projection" and "third angle projection" sound like something from a high school drafting textbook. I would use terms like "plan," "elevation," "section," and "detail." You are correct in suggesting that orientation be consistent extended from the overall section to the detail section.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 57
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 11:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Further investigation:

1. 3rd angle projection is US standard, see ASME Y14.3-2012 -- Orthographic and Pictorial Views
2. 3rd angle projection is not incompatible with plan, elevation, and section, but defines a standard way to position those drawings on a sheet to reduce possible mis-interpretation.
3. I know of instances where mis-interpretations have occurred.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Richard Gonser AIA CSI CCCA SCIP
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Username: rich_gonser

Post Number: 107
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 12:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

While these terms are technically correct, it would be lost on the viewer. We all need to respond to our audience.

Terms like plan, section, elevation, isometric and axonometric are known terms to those in the building community. I would keep it there.

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