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Ron Beard CCS Senior Member Username: rm_beard_ccs
Post Number: 95 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:17 pm: | |
CSI has advised me that they no longer develop or promote SpecData Sheets. I have always found them to be very useful and informative especially where they list the uses-limitations of their specific products, technical data, and detailed installation procedures. Since CSI has abandoned SpecData Sheets, is the architectural, engineering, manufacturing communities following their lead? Ron |
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing
Post Number: 295 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:34 pm: | |
We still find some of these in manufacturer's binders-- usually out of date. It is too bad, as this was a good program. There is such a massive amount of information on the typical web site, it would be both helpful and refreshing to have a quick and incisive summary or synopsis, like Spec Data [just as it is always helpful if the manufacturer has a CSI formtted spec on their web site, for quick referece and/or use] Might be good directions for new or renewed CSI effort, eh, what? How about a student activity? |
Ron Beard CCS Senior Member Username: rm_beard_ccs
Post Number: 96 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:40 pm: | |
Maybe something for the Technical Committees to do? Ron |
Helaine K. (Holly) Robinson CSI CCS CCCA Senior Member Username: hollyrob
Post Number: 202 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:42 pm: | |
The last I knew, <i>Architects' First Source</i>A (now Reed) had taken them over. Go here: http://www.firstsourceonl.com/members/result.asp?key=Spec-Data&submit.x=49&submit.y=7 |
Helaine K. (Holly) Robinson CSI CCS CCCA Senior Member Username: hollyrob
Post Number: 203 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:44 pm: | |
http://www.firstsourceonl.com/members/dochelp.asp?doc=sd SPEC-DATA® 10-part technical data sheet SPEC-DATA® contains in-depth technical product information formatted for easy reference for product evaluations and comparisons. SPEC-DATA® is available exclusively on the Internet. Features of SPEC-DATA® include: * Technical information on commercial building products * Written by experienced specification professionals * Organized according to CSI's 50-division MasterFormat™ numbering system * Formatted according to CSI's 10-part format SPEC-DATA® is linked to manufacturers' preliminary product information as found in the First Source™ publication and website. SPEC-DATA® icons are located at the bottom of First Source™ product entries and also appear through the searches on this site. Users can search by: * Product * CSI Code * Manufacturer Name * General Word Search SPEC-DATA® files on this site are stored in Adobe Acrobat format (PDF), a software package that allows companies to create and share business documents with their original appearance intact. For more information and a free copy, see Adobe Acrobat. * SPEC-DATA® and MANU-SPEC® are registered to Reed Elsevier Inc. |
Colin Gilboy Senior Member Username: colin
Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:45 pm: | |
The major problem from the manufacturer's side of the SpecData sheet was the cost - $5,000 per year per product. That alone says why the program was not successful. That said, I also understand that the 10 part format was copyrighted and there were some not-so-mild letters of copyright enforcement sent to the manufacturers who did their own data sheets copying the format. I think the concept was a great one. I used the SpecData sheets and binders as a starting spot for WebFormat, which is trademarked and published by CSRF. This is a standardized layout for product information that can be used by the web designer, rather than doing a wholy-creative design that does not provide the information you need. http://www.4specs.com/webformat/ While I understand CSI Institute struggle for income, I think they need to endorse some standards for publishing design information. Rather than have an expensive review and publication process, CSI would be better to have 75% of the manufacturers publish their own product data sheets and to encourage them to keep them up to date, even if there is no peer review. |
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