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Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C
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Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip

Post Number: 312
Registered: 02-2014


Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2015 - 06:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

received email 5/26 from institute saying ccs expires at end of june, and to use a new system to document 24+ hrs CEUs. At least one other CCS I know rec'd same email at same time with same expiration date, I don't know how likely we would expire at the same time. Anyway be sure not to miss this in your email! https://portal.csinet.org/default.aspx
Richard Gonser AIA CSI CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: rich_gonser

Post Number: 103
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2015 - 08:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I haven't received an email but prompted by your comment, I checked and it tells me the same thing. I've done plenty of webinars and seminars that should have been recorded.

That fact that it is zero is where the puzzle is.
Richard Howard, AIA CSI CCS LEED-AP
Senior Member
Username: rick_howard

Post Number: 288
Registered: 07-2003


Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2015 - 08:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My CSI record appears to have been fabricated from all sorts of fictionalized data. I almost didn't recognize myself. They misstated my CCS date by 12 years and granted me a CDT I never sat for.
Liz O'Sullivan
Senior Member
Username: liz_osullivan

Post Number: 184
Registered: 10-2011


Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2015 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I just did my renewal for CCS tonight - mine also expires at the end of this month. You have to enter all your credit hours in manually. Fun!

These are easier to enter in than LEED credit hours used to be, though.

Don't bother entering in more than 24 - it seems to have recorded the extras I entered, and I hope it is saving them for my CCCA renewal. But it did not appear to have counted the extras at this time.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 2025
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Monday, June 08, 2015 - 01:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Did anyone think to contact the Certification Manager, Jennifer Antiporda? She can be reached at
jantiporda@csinet.org, 703-706-4749.
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding

Post Number: 793
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Monday, June 08, 2015 - 02:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks Lynn. If you have questions specific to certification, then Jennifer is the contact person. She also can be reached at certification@csinet.org

However, if you are having problems with the database, or the portal, or how your information has been entered or appears in CSI's website, please contact webmaster@csinet.org

I'll have a more detailed posting in a few minutes on specifics of certification renewal and continuing education
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding

Post Number: 794
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Monday, June 08, 2015 - 03:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

All certifications are valid for three years and expire on June 30 of the third calendar year of validity - this corresponds to the CSI fiscal year. Everybody whose certification expires within a given year has the same June 30 date.

It is up to you, the certificant, to keep track of your expiration year, but CSI does endeavor to send you an email notice as a courtesy reminder. Because people change addresses and not all certificants are CSI members, the certification staff can't guarantee they have access to everyone's current email address.

Continuing education requirements have been required since 1997. Upon renewal, each certificant needs to have 24 hours of continuing education related to the subject of the certification. Those 24 hours need to have been acquired in the 36 previous months - so for certifications expiring this June 30, 2015, the education needs to have been acquired between July 1, 2012 and June 30, 2015.

Until this year, CSI relied on the honor system - expecting that each individual professional could be trusted to obtain and document the required education - and each individual attested to this upon signing the renewal of the certification. CSI also randomly audited a certain % of renewing certificants as a quality control measure to validate the credentialing process. With the new database conversion, CSI is instituting a tracking process for continuing education credits, and this will enhance the credibility of both the certificant’s credential and the Institute’s credentialing effort.

A CSI certification designates that you have “…demonstrated the requisite knowledge, skills, or competencies …required for competent performance of an occupational or professional role or specific work-related tasks and responsibilities.” Credentialing standards require that certificants maintain those knowledge, skills, and competencies over the time that they hold the certification, and continuing education is one way of assuring this. Keep in mind that educational credits are not for one use only. Many times the same credit can be used for CCS, CCCA, CCPR, architectural or other licensing, USGBC, AIA, etc.

I went in today and entered my CEU’s for my CCS and CCCA, even though my expiration dates are 2016 and 2017 respectively. You can check both CCS and CCCA for a class that you are entering, and if you do this it will use that class for both. If you failed to check both, you can go back in and edit your entries – that seemed to work when I fat-fingered my entries a few times. It wasn’t horribly tedious, plus I was working from a pdf of my AIA record, so much of it was cut and paste.

As mentioned in the above posting, contact certification@csinet.org for questions related to certification-specific issues. Contact webmaster@csinet.org for questions or issues related to the database, portal, or website. If you have questions for me, you can post them here and I will respond, or you can email me at george.everding@outlook.com

George A. Everding
Chair, Certification Committee Strategic Group
Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: nwoods

Post Number: 670
Registered: 08-2005


Posted on Monday, June 08, 2015 - 04:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks for the explanation George. So nice to have Institute folks here on 4Specs!
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 910
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Monday, June 08, 2015 - 06:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks George. My only 'beef' is that, having worked at a few different places since 2012, I don't have immediate access to my list of classes. Wish I knew this was coming, or at least had a little more time before getting hit with this. It's not a big deal, but it is a bit of a hassle considering it's a new requirement (listing the sessions, not taking them).
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding

Post Number: 795
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

General questions and concerns about CSI can also be expressed to Member Services at csi@csinet.org or 800-689-2900.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 09:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Unfortunately, my dealings with Ms. Antiporda via email were not productive.

Upon receiving my latest CCS Certificate, I noticed that my name was not listed correctly (this problem has occurred on previous renewals). When I contacted CSI, I received an auto-reply message stating that "I will be out of the office at CONSTRUCT and will return on Monday, September 15 with no access to email while I am out." This message was received 9/5/2015; i.e. CSI was going to be "closed" for 10 days?

Finally, I wrote a letter to Walt Marlowe with xc to Robert Simmons expressing my frustrations trying to resolve the issue. Several days (10 days to be exact) after the convention, I received an apology email from Mr. Marlowe and a phone call from Mr. Simmons expressing his disappointment that the issue had not been resolved.

Hopefully, response time and customer service at CSI has improved.
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding

Post Number: 796
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ken-

The continuing education record-keeping requirements haven't changed - it's always been a responsibility of the certificant to maintain personal records. CSI's policy is consistent with industry credentialing standards and is similar to what other credentialing authorities require. What's changed is the mechanism used to validate CEU's. Having everyone list upon renewal is a more equitable and valid than random audits.

I sympathize with your job change hassles – it’s been the same thing with retirement. As much as we try to transfer and retain everything we need, some things always are forgotten. I hope you are able to resurrect all the credits you need when you renew.

Hope to see you in St. Louis in a few months.
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 405
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 04:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have been trying to sort this out for days and exchanged multiple emails with Jen Antiporda. It seems easier to deal with using MSIE rather than Google Chrome. I have been told that I can combine all of my certificates into a single PDF file to upload. I am doing it one file per year because I have certificates filed in folders by year. So far I am having log in difficulties again and have not managed to upload anything.
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 407
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 04:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Also, Hanley Wood apparently failed to record PDUs that I received at multiple CSI conventions with CSI.
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 408
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 04:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

OK, going back to portal.csinet.org and starting fresh seems to have fixed my login issue and I uploaded the 2015 PDF. Now to make and upload 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, and part of 2009.
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 409
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 08:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Uploaded 2014, went to a meeting and came back, now I cannot get in to upload 2013.
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 162
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - 08:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My CCS certification is also up for renewal at the end of this month and to date I've received nothing from CSI in the way of a reminder. I've been on vacation for the last two weeks but have gone through my mail and e-mail. I have contacted CSI about this.

When my CCCA was due for renewal last year CSI also tried to tell me my CCS was about to expire too. That was erroneous and I proved it to CSI by sending a scan of my current certificate. Gee, life just gets more complicated as one gets older. :-)

Right now I'm watching through my window as Tropical Storm Bill moves in and wondering if the air conditioning repair man will be able to replace my broken AC tomorrow as he predicted last Saturday. Yes, we came home form beautiful, temperate San Diego last Thursday to hot, humid (and now stormy)Houston to find our house AC had given up the ghost.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - 09:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I had to contact Hanley Wood multiple times to obtain certificates of attendance for classes at a national convention several years ago. Doesn't appear their record keeping and distribution has improved.

Continue to contact Hanley Wood and Ms. Antiporda until you receive credit for all of your continuing education classes.
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: specman

Post Number: 1314
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

FYI: Hanley-Wood was bought out by Informa Exhibitions.
Ron Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
www.specsandcodes.com
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 410
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - 04:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Well, I managed to upload 2013 last night but waited to pay until I could confirm today that SCIP members do NOT get a discount on certification renewal. So I paid my $80.

This is a nice system, or will be once it works with Chrome and all of the login errors are gone.
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 411
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - 04:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

For Missing PDUs from past CONSTRUCTs:

Cindy Barrand
CONSTRUCT Conference Manager
ph: 972.536.6332
cindy.barrand@informa.com
Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C
Senior Member
Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip

Post Number: 313
Registered: 02-2014


Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 08:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I had some snags to figure out with the website but here's how I got through it, might save others time if they are still reporting -
most important tip, DO NOT WAIT ANY LONGER if you haven't finished already. It may take longer than you think!

I have reported these to webmaster@csinet.org.

The system seems to time out every few minutes without letting the user know what happened. Then the next time you try to submit new PDH or finish editing PDH, it appears as though the website stopped working. Even closing the tab and retyping the base URL does not work at this point. I have found it does this whether in Internet Explorer or other browsers.
SOLUTION: Fully close the browser.

Also if you try to upload supporting documentation that is somewhere over 4 or 5 MB, it is too big of a file but instead of letting the user know what happened, it goes back to the main portal page without any apparent reason.
SOLUTION: If this happens to you, then try optimizing PDFs for large files of programs you attended, or use a low-res camera phone or low-res scanner settings to copy certificates.

I didn't mean to start a gripe session, only trying to find out if others had similar issues with this process and alert my friends here to watch out for the email. There were two more reminders by email, that is a good thing. You're right George, we have been previously made aware as certificants of our duty to track the information for every 3 yr renewal. If anyone wants a spreadsheet and folders to help keep track of that regardless of job changes or whatever, here is one I use that is updated to current requirements: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8b0ocjrbpcvz14/CE%20-%20CCS%20renewal.zip?dl=0. Best thing is to upload credits right after they are earned. Also though CSI has changed to completely different websites for reporting the data a couple of times, so I will keep using my spreadsheet and folder system too in case it does not all come through into some future system. I sure would like to see credits earned at CONSTRUCT be reported for us, too. And why not our Chapter programs similar to AIA? I will pass these ideas along to certification and education leaders.

I did also contact certification@csinet.org when it came to particulars of my renewal but I suspect she is overwhelmed right now and I muddled through it OK.
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 412
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 03:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Kait Solomon (@KaitlinSolomon3)
7/1/15, 9:32 AM
via @JessicaD1216: CSI is extending the certification renewal grace period to July 31st. Renew at portal.csinet.org #CSICertified

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