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Author Message Anonymous   Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 03:04 pm:    Check out the "member" classifications listed for the 2008 MRCA National Conference at www.mrca.org. MRCA, NTRCA, Roof Consultants Institute (RCI), RCAT, American Institute of Architects (AIA), and Building Owners & Managers Association (BOMA) are listed. Where oh where is CSI and why would we not qualify for the "members" registration fee? Very few of these roofing systems would be installed on commercial buildings if we did not specify them. John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: john_regener Post Number: 411 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 07:27 pm:    Could it be that Rodney Dangerfield has become the patron saint of construction specifiers? Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 804 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 05:49 pm:    We need to lodge a complaint! Bombard them with requests for member status! Protest! Picket! Sit-down! Boycott! Kim Swartzendruber (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 10:32 am:    MRCA will certainly extend "member" rates to the specifying community and apologies for the omission. Simply mark CSI on your registration form. Thanks for the interest and hope to see you there. Kim Swartzendruber, MRCA. Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 805 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 10:52 am:    See what an inquiry can accomplish? Kim was quick and gracious in response to my email. (I didn't even get around to making up my protest sign - can you tell I'm a child of the 60's?) Anonymous   Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:00 am:    Nah!!!!!!!!!! Doug Frank FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: doug_frank_ccs Post Number: 273 Registered: 06-2002 Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 08:55 am:    On November 24th I received my monthly copy of “Architect” magazine compliments of Hanley Wood. Included in the mailing is a supplement entitled “Continuing Education –Fall 2010 Guide”. It’s a great piece, about 30 pages long, that lists a whole bunch of continuing education courses available through Hanley Wood and associated manufacturers. “So What”, you’re asking. The supplement includes three separate pages that list specific continuing education requirements for various professional organizations; one each for AIA, NAHB, and USGBC. Notice anyone missing from that list? CSI has continuing education requirements too. Given CSI’s partnership with Hanley Wood, you’d think they would have included CSI’s requirements as well wouldn’t you? Is this yet another glaring example of lack of awareness in the design/construction community about CSI’s certification programs; CDT, CCS, CCPR, CCCA? I’ve been on this soapbox for Years and really have not seen any improvement in our absolute lack of publicity for our certification programs (Except of course in Specifier magazine and other CSI publications where we’re preaching to the choir). Doug Frank FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate FKP Architects, Inc. Houston, TX Doug Frank FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: doug_frank_ccs Post Number: 274 Registered: 06-2002 Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 11:13 am:    I’m on a roll today,, just received our annual Arcom MasterSpec dues invoice and noticed that CSI is no longer included in the listing of organizations eligible for the ten percent discount. There’s a line that says “For CSI Member discount, call Arcom”. So I did. A nice young lady explained to me that the relationship between Arcom and CSI has changed and the CSI discount is now Five percent. Why The Face? (inside joke) You don’t suppose CSI’s purchase of BSD has anything to do with that do you? OK, it’s not really that big of a deal; would be about $90 for my firm but we’ll still get the ten percent since we have AIA members on staff. But it’s the Principle of the thing to me. How is it that the professional organization of all specifiers isn’t entitled to the best discount from the biggest dealer of master specifications? Go figure. Doug Frank FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate FKP Architects, Inc. Houston, TX William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: wpegues Post Number: 825 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 12:06 pm:    Doug, you speak straight from the heart for a lot of us. On the later point of the discount, one wonders why indeed no discount. One would think that on a matter of marketing that the CSI/BSD deal would make ARCOM want to lure more to their fold. So, its not so short sighted on the part of CSI but more of a marketing faux pas on the part of ARCOM. What a missed opportunity on their part. Frankly, if I were in their marketing, I would be pressing hard to make it an 11% discount to CSI members, not much, but it makes a statement on their part. William William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: awhitacre Post Number: 1063 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 02:45 pm:    I don't think it says anything about Arcom and it says a lot about how bone-headed CSI is in this relationship. As Doug says, the $90 isn't that much in the scheme of things and if I worked for a firm that worried about that much money, I would pay the difference myself. G. Wade Bevier, CCS, LEED-AP BD+C, CSI, SCIP, USGBC Senior Member Username: wbevier Post Number: 21 Registered: 07-2004 Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 03:00 pm:    It may not be that much but it represents a critical issue to the independent specifier who has to budget these tools out of very tight funds. Not having the AIA membership to fall back on means that the lost discount will need to be made up in added revenues many of which are coming from contacts made through this very association that is supposed to be representing our/my interests. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. My renewal for a number of ARCOM libraries will become due the end of May and maybe there will have been some added negotiations on this subject, in the meantime.