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Anonymous
 
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 05:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Construct2009 location announced: Indianapolis. Hanley Wood claims this was their survey choice. mid-west, mid-June -- I can't think of anyplace less interesting.
AIA on the other hand, is going to Boston this year; San Francisco next year; Miami, New Orleans and Washington DC after that.

when is CSI going to figure out that conventions need to be held in places where people actually want to go? I take vacations in San Francisco, and Miami and Boston. No one takes a vacation in Indianapolis... unless its for the state spelling bee.
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 763
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 05:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I'm really sorry, Anonymous, that you find the midwest so boring and unsophisticated.
Jim Brittell
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Username: jwbrittell

Post Number: 55
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 07:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Lynn,

Darn right! I just want to know when they're going to have it in Milwaukee, maybe in late June so I could combine it with the Packer's shareholder's meeting...
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
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Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 763
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 08:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Milwaukee is better anyway. it has a waterfront, and it has a Calatrava-designed building.
Phil Kabza
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Username: phil_kabza

Post Number: 311
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

When Charlotte community leaders were studying urban redevelopment issues, a group of them went to Indianapolis to learn more about their success in revitalizing a deteriorating city core. So there may be a very good story to be told in Indianapolis about brown fields, residential urban development, high density housing, and all those other sustainable community issues.

Then to Milwaukee, for its wonderful ethnic restaurants. To heck with the vendor parties.
Doug Frank FCSI CCS
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Username: doug_frank_ccs

Post Number: 217
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 07:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Indianapolis in 09; Do Not miss the Speedway Museum located inside the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Even non-race fans will enjoy the history.
Don Harris CSI, CCS, CCCA, AIA
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Username: don_harris

Post Number: 185
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 08:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

"So there may be a very good story to be told in Indianapolis about brown fields, residential urban development, high density housing, and all those other sustainable community issues."

Financed by the economic engine ripped from the heart of the city of Baltimore. My short term memory may not be all that it used to be, but I can still hold a grudge. Needless to say, I voted for Minneapolis.
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 890
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 08:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

On the one hand, I kind of agree with anonymous' posting. On the other hand, there's a whole bunch of smaller cities that have all sorts of interesting amenities worthy of at least a short stay that I wouldn't mind seeing--or seeing again. Places like Indy, Cleveland, Sacramento, Portland OR, Tulsa, Memphis, Huntsville, St. Augustine, Savannah, Charleston, etc., etc. Give me five minutes I'll add more. Since I've never been to Indianapolis, I almost certainly will go.
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 764
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 08:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I grew up in New York, spent 10 years living in the LA area, and now work in Milwaukee, living near by. I've visited many US and UK cities and have found NONE to be boring; I've never wished I was somewhere else but where I was at the time. Indianapolis is a great city with a historic downtown area; I've visited twice and learned something new both times. I expect to see a lot of new construction and to revisit places I've seen before. I'm looking forward to spending additional days there, being a tourist.
Richard Howard, AIA CSI CCS LEED-AP
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Username: rick_howard

Post Number: 176
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have vacationed in Indianapolis, driving all the way from Cincinnati. It is a great place to bring the family. The downtown area is safe and clean. Within easy walking distance of downtown hotels, you can go to a baseball game, a heritage museum, sculpture park, zoo, shopping mall, university campus, and the arts district. There are plenty of nice hotels and a wide variety of great restaurants, all at resonable cost. For people coming from far away, you have excellent low-cost airport connections. Give Indy a chance to prove it is someplace worth visiting.
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 765
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

By the way, thanks, y'all, for the nice words about Milwaukee. Come visit! There's a festival most every weekend in the summer at summerfest grounds; we've got a great ballpark close by; we have theaters, ballet, museums, botanical gardens, a zoo, and of course, the Calatrava! (just to mention a few attractions)
Brian E. Trimble, CDT
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Username: brian_e_trimble_cdt

Post Number: 15
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I travel to Indianapolis on business a couple times a year. It is a nice place to have a convention. Nothing too large that you get lost in and nice hotels all around. I haven't had a chance to do too many touristy things on my travels there, but have found some great places. Shapiro's Deli is a must. Meat piled so high I could hear my arteries crying. The downtown is very walkable and monument square is neat.

CSI has the opportunity to go to interesting places now that they aren't so large. I would love to have CSI come to my hometown of Pittsburgh to show it off. It's not thought of as a big convention town, but we have the rivers and a lot of interesting things. If we stick to the SF, Las Vegas, Miami route, we lose out on exploring neat places.
James M. Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CDT, LEED AP
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Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 38
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am encouraged to learn that next year's convention will be in Indianapolis. This is a city I haven't visited before and I very much agree with Ms. Javoroski - I have never visited a place and wished I were someplace else (not even Las Vegas the first time I was there). Besides, I am told the architecture to be seen in Indianapolis is worth the trip. I know gasoline is expensive these days but rent a car (perhaps a Hyundai or Kia) and drive to New Harmony or Columbus, Indiana. There is plenty to see there as well.

I can tell you also, as a life-long resident of the Texas coastal plain, the contrast in the scenery is something to be appreciated.

Boston, Miami, San Francisco, and New Orleans are all great places. I have visited each more than once and enjoyed myself every time but everyone and his cousin go there also. There are so many other great cities that have much to offer without the crowds and expense. John Bunzick, shame on you for "outing" one of my favorites, Portland, Oregon;-)
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 834
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Well, now folks, ain't nothing wrong with 98 miles SE of Indy-- CINCINNATI

On campus we have a Graves, an Eiseman, a Gehry, and several other "signature" projects. High culture; low expectation for pro sports but at least they are "pro"; great symphony [in outdoor pavilion on the river], art museum, and much architecture from several generations.

Oh, yes, we have your beer, and river boat cruises, too. And for the diverse, casinos across the state line in IN.

Sneer if you wish-- but you're missing something quite good.
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: geverding

Post Number: 424
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I've been "through" many times on I-70, but never "to" Indianapolis, so I am looking forward to 2009. The best thing Hanley-Wood could do is institute a "non-repeat" rule: visit a city no more than once a decade. Actually, with all the good suggestions, you could visit once a century and still have enough places to go.

Also, I need to sneak in a mention of St. Louis, the heart of the Midwest. Like the other Midwest cities, there is plenty to do and see in mid-June, or mid- any other month for that matter.

And, Anonymous, when did "convention" become synonymous with "vacation"? While both may be an enjoyable break from the everyday routine, I would suggest that they serve very different purposes.
Tracy Van Niel, FCSI, CCS
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Username: tracy_van_niel

Post Number: 244
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 03:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

For some reason my last post will be showing up as "anonymous" even though it indicated I was logged in at the top of the page ...

So at the risk of repeating myself or changing my story ...

I agree with Lynn about going to Indianapolis. It's 3 hours from my house (or less depending on the lead in my feet), plus I am sure the hotels will be at a MUCh more reasonable dollar amount than the high priced cities of San Francisco, Las Vegas, etc. Indianapolis has a great downtown zoo and a wonderful science center too.

Ralph: I went to the CSI convention when it was held in Cincinnati and it was FUN.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 03:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree with Lynn ... and besides that I can drive there in 3 hours (or less, depending on the lead in my foot) AND because it's NOT a high priced city like San Fran, etc., etc., I bet the hotels will be a reasonable price as well.

I went to the CSI Convention when it was in Cincinnati and it was FUN.
Tracy Van Niel, FCSI, CCS
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Username: tracy_van_niel

Post Number: 246
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2008 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

What dates are the Indianapolis convention? I want to go ahead and mark my calendar so I can try to block out the time to go.
Doug Frank FCSI CCS
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Username: doug_frank_ccs

Post Number: 219
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2008 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Tracy, it's June 16 - 19

I "googled" construct2009 and found the info
W. Dean Walker, AIA, CCS, SCIP
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Username: wdwalkerspecs

Post Number: 26
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I think its great that Construct-CSI is finally leaving "expensive sin city" LV. To the anonymous person that started this thread it sounds like all they want is a vacation away, not a construction learning experience. They are in the wrong organization.
John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
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Username: john_regener

Post Number: 389
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 02:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I like the idea of having Construct - CSI convention in cities such as Indianapolis. I'd like Charlotte, NC, Memphis, TN, Pittsburgh, PA, St. Louis, MO, Phoenix, AZ and San Diego, CA to be considered.

Don't consider Anaheim, CA. The weather is too nice in April (and May and June). The city has too many alternative motels/hotels of varying price ranges and there are five airports serving Orange County (John Wayne (SNA), Long Beach (LGB), Los Angeles (LAX), Burbank (BUR) and Ontario (ONT)) plus Amtrak and good ol' I-5 that passes within 2 miles of the convention center. There are recreational activities such as the the Mouse's park (2 parks actually), Knott's Berry Farm, the beaches, world class shopping, a broad range of restaurants and clubs ($ to $$$$), Major League Baseball, and other family-friendly activities. You could even go North 7 miles and cross the Orange Curtain into El Lay and its plethora of kultural activities. It would just ruin the geriatric character of CSI's annual gathering to have crowds of people under 40 attend.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 767
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 04:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I'm not looking for the CSI convention (Construct, etc) to be a vacation, but I would like to see some distinctive architecture and have a location that provides something more than a convention hall as the impetus to attend. I was on the board when Hanley Wood bought the "show" and Portland was supposed to be coming up -- this year, actually -- and H-W said very clearly that they did not see Portland as a viable location because it was too limited in terms of shipping and air flights in, and it was expensive to ship booths to. Based on that reasoning, I would guess that Boston, Miami, San Antonio, San Diego, and a whole lot of other locations would be "not considered" for the show location. I don't think we should be trying to schedule vacations -- but if architects are going to attend, then there should be something of design interest in the location. Some how the AIA manages to have their show (which has greater attendance than the CSI show) in cities that can showcase good design AND host a large tradeshow.
Richard Howard, AIA CSI CCS LEED-AP
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Username: rick_howard

Post Number: 178
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 04:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

May I suggest a side trip to Columbus, Indiana, less than an hour from Indy. Despite its small size (pop. 39,000), Columbus is ranked sixth in the U.S. for architectural innovation and design by the AIA. There are more than 70 buildings and pieces of public art by internationally noted architects and artists, including I.M. Pei, Eliel Saarinen, Eero Saarinen, Richard Meier, Harry Weese, Dale Chihuly and Henry Moore.
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
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Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 355
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 04:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Welcome to Columbus, Indiana, an unbelievable community that is internationally recognized and architecturally significant. Columbus is located within the Indianapolis, Louisville, and Cincinnati triangle....

http://www.columbus.in.us/
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
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Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 356
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 04:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Architecture & Public Art: Columbus IN

http://www.columbus.in.us/listings/index.cfm?catId=336

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