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Robin Treston (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I can't believe this hasn't come up for me before... but how does everyone spec parking garage signage (overhead clearance, or floor identification signage). Steel sheet? Fiberglass? I tried looking at a bunch of sign manufacturer's - couldn't find anything. Thanks!
John McGrann
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Username: Jmcgrann

Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I usually specify aluminum sign blanks with reflective letters and symbols, which are either reverse silk-screened or pressure applied. Look at the 3M website for "Scotchlite" reflective sheeting.
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Username: Wpegues

Post Number: 208
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Robin,

I don't think it is unusual that you have not had that issue come up before. In 27 years I have never done garage signage. That's for projects ranging from New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Deleware, Virginia, West Virginia, DC, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. That's a lot of projects, a lot of different owner groups that included sometimes local governments, though most were private owners, and every one had a garage, and there were a number that have been stand alone garages as the entire project.

On all of them, the Owner made their own arrangements with a local graphics/signage installer, or where they had a concession running the parking garage in their office building the operator was required to provide signage.

If I were doing this, I would go take a look at some garages local to the project site where the garage was the same owner, or the garage was part of a project of the same level of quality as your project, and then list those characteristics of the signage for the Owner to consider.

This avoids second guessing or when samples come in a really surprised Owner.

I have actually gone through that exercise a couple times with project managers that were certain that signage was required - only to learn that after the list of local projects and signage characteristics was given to the owner that they said, 'oh, we have our own signage people we work with.'

I am sure its different in many places, or different kinds of owners here locally.

William
Ralph Liebing
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Username: Rliebing

Post Number: 34
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

MasterSpec has 2 sign Sections-- 10431 and 10436 which covers a great many sign types. Perhaps you'll find something there to help you.
Anonymous
 
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

There is a whole signage package required for parking garages. I have written countless parking garages and to my knowledge, there is no commercial master guide spec. Parking garage signage is a custom package.

What goes in the signage package is largely dependent on the type/use/size of the garage, whether it exits into traffic; coordination with electrical for emergency and stair exits for startes. The directional and information signage may be metal signage, painted wall signage, plastic laminate signage, themed signage, or any combination of a variety of materials. It is necessary to comply with ADAAG and building and fire code requirements in selecting the garage signage.

You have to sit down with your client and the owner or its facility manager, know the governing codes, (frequently) educate your client and the owner, before coming to decisions about required and optional signage, what they want to pay, and if it is under the design contract or a separate package by the owner.

Parking garage signage is an important component of the facility and is often a specialty with the firms that are specialized parking garage designers.

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