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Sheryl Dodd-Hansen, FCSI, CCS
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Username: Sheryldh

Post Number: 5
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We need to find a concrete sealant to use at the entrances and exits to the auto bays of a jiffy lube type facility - something resistant to oil and other fluids and that won't be slippery. Any suggestions?
David Stutzman
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Username: David_stutzman

Post Number: 11
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 01:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

You could try Sika'a epoxy sealants (Sikadur series) - good chemical resistance, but not much movement capability. Or use Sika urethane series (Sikaflex) designed for runways and roadways.

We normally use 2-part urethanes for this application and have had good success in car dealer service bays. I'm sure you can find comparable products from Tremco and Pecora too.

Just how wide are these joint that slip resistance is a concern?
Sheryl Dodd-Hansen, FCSI, CCS
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Username: Sheryldh

Post Number: 6
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 02:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks, David, you've given me some direction.

We're trying to make the surface of the concrete less likely to get slippery and cause people to fall.
Todd Schneider (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 02:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

For slip-resistence, you should incorporate Shark Grip (available from Sherwin-Williams) or similar non-skid media.

Regards,

Todd Schneider
Curt Norton, CSI, CCS
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Username: Curtn

Post Number: 14
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 02:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sheryl-
Are you looking for a joint sealant or a sealer for the surface of the concrete?
Sheryl Dodd-Hansen, FCSI, CCS
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Username: Sheryldh

Post Number: 7
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 08:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Oh, you sure can learn about terminology when you throw your questions onto 4specs! We are, indeed, looking for "sealer", not "sealant". Thanks to the value of CSI networking I had a long talk with an expert and got some direction. Also found out I'm not the only one who can be confused by the terminology. Sounds like a good topic for an education program!
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Username: Wpegues

Post Number: 167
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 11:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sheryl,

Its a very common misunderstanding. We are all the time getting true concrete sealers submitted to us under the Division 7 Sealants section saying they can't find the specified requirements - when its right there in the concrete sections for surface preparations....as sealers.

And I have seen many that know the correct terminology slip into using it incorrectly during a discussion where others start off using it incorrectly.

William
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Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 01:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I always wondered why we can not just use the term "caulk". It may sound low tech, but everyone knows what you are talking about. We could use "Calk" for the cheap stuff and "Caulk" for the good stuff.
Lynn Javoroski
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Username: Lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 23
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The best concrete sealer I have found is the old reliable Ashford Formula. I will be specing it for a helipad. It hardens the concrete and makes it pretty much impervious to anything. And if the concrete is slightly rough when it's applied, it won't get that warehouse floor sheen. It's used in warehouses, factories, hangars, car showrooms, etc.
j smith
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Username: Specbuster

Post Number: 2
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have seen Ashford used in this type of application and it has it,s problems with hot automotive fluids and slip resistance..Shark Grip additive will not work in this type of application either for various reasons. I would look at a chemical treatment such as SLX 100 by Prosoco Inc. This product will not change the slip resistance for the surfaces of which it is applied. It has an oleophoblic additive that will prevent oil contamination..Link
http://www.prosoco.com/ProductList.asp?m=3&i=6

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