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David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Post Number: 197
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 07:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Does anyone know where there is an online dictionary of construction and architectural terms?

Thanks
John McGrann
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 07:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The one I know of is:

http://www.dreamghar.com/dictionary.html
Robert E. Woodburn, RA, CCS, CCCA,CSI
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Username: bob_woodburn

Post Number: 28
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 10:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks for the link. In a quick glance (10-15 seconds) at that dictionary, I noticed two typos (at "pitched roof" and one other, above that, in the P's), and at least one significant omission ("Portland cement"). It seems to slight the more technical construction terms, in favor of the more general and historical. But hey, it's a start...
Stephan Reppert CSI, CDT
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

In 1824 Joseph Aspdin (pronounced aspdin)patented an artificial cement which he aptly (pronounced aptly) named portland cement, after the grey colered English limestone. I hope this fills the void. (no pun intended)
Stephan Reppert CSI, CDT
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Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 11:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sorry, I ment to spell "colored"....my mistake...
Stephan Reppert CSI, CDT
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Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 11:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sorry, I ment to spell "meant"
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Post Number: 243
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

There are a number of online dictionaries, some better than others, but none as good as some of the ones available in print. Most are not really dictionaries, but rather glossaries.

Some of the ones that I have seen are...

http://ah.bfn.org/a/DCTNRY/vocab.html

http://www.theresponsibleorder.com/150glossary.htm

http://www.getty.edu/research/conducting_research/vocabularies/aat/index.html

I have not actually found an online dictionary for construction/architectural terms that I really like.

I have found that going to dictionary.com provides relevant definitions for many tems. Sometimes not, but most of the times I have needed something I have found it there.

William
Colin Gilboy
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 05-2000
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

That dictionary is based in India, thus the British spelling.

Many of you know I am on the SpecText board. At a meeting we discussed taking every word in the SpecText specs and defining the word. With their permission, I could take a list of the words and post them in an editable area on 4specs and have specifiers start to define the words - say 2-3,000 of them.

If there is interest, this could be taken on as a community project and when roughed out be available for 4specs users. I would put the work in the public domain so copying could be done by others, including SpecText. We could make it available for CSI and AIA to use.

I have some ideas on how to implement this in an easy way. Send me an email directly rather than posting "me too" on the discussion. The only concern is that copyrighted materials could not be used to generate the descriptions.

colin@4specs.com
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 198
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks!

What started this thread was an intern architect asking me about the term "holiday" in the roofing section. I told her that is when the contractor gets half the job completed then goes on a 3 week cruise.

I will check the links you guys gave me and see how they define holiday. I typically use www.dictionary.com, but of course it defined it as a vacation.

For those of you that don't know a "holiday" is when there is a skip in material such as not evenly spreading paint, adhesive or asphalt.
Ralph Liebing
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 01:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David, why don't you throw "spud" back at your intern-- you will get strange looks, weird grunts,and academic silence!
John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 01:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David:

I ran across an art dictionary that had many architectural terms:

www.artlex.com

See "rib" for example in this dictionary. Several images of a ribbed vaults in a Gothic cathedral will display.
John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 01:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

A civil engineer had a note on a grading plan that said "grade to daylight". As I recall, the slope of a new berm was noted in rate of slope rather than giving a plan dimension. This meant, create a berm with the top at a certain elevation and then grade away from the top at the stated rate of slope until the grade "daylights", that is, intersects with the existing grade. I believe it is a term that is more appropriately used for the end of a drainage pipe where it exits the ground.

The contractor wanted to know if this meant he had to work all night.
Lynn Javoroski
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I use OneLookDictionarySearch for all words, construction terms or "regular" language. The only word that didn't get at least 4 responses was "premiating". It got none.
Sheldon Wolfe
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Perhaps "permeating" would work. ;-)
Helaine K. Robinson CCS
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 03:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

US Government Contracting Glossary

http://www.armcor.com/contractor_glossary.html
David Reed (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 11:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Best construction related dictionary I've come across is at RS Means

http://www.rsmeans.com/dictionary/index.asp
Lynn Javoroski
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

While reading an article in Building, a UK publication, I came across the word "drylining". Is this what we here in the colonies call "drywall" or is it something more?
Ralph Liebing
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 01:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

You're close apparently, Lynn-- go this off the net;

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specialist in curved walls and ceilings.
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Ralph Liebing
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 55
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 03:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Also, Lynn, I must warn you about the "noggin's", and "secret fixin's"! 'Course, those are really Irish terms.
Lynn Javoroski
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 04:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hmmm...I'm Irish (part, anyway) and don't know anything about "noggin's" and "secret fixin's", unless you count the secret ingredients in Colonel Sanders chicken!

Thanks for the info on drylining. From what I was able to find on the 'net, which wasn't quite as specific as what you found, I was still unsure, but leaning toward the idea that it's more that just drywall gypsum board. Hence my question. It seems as though it's more of a system: studs plus drywall equal drylining.

Wish I could get an answer from someone in the UK!
Margaret G. Chewning CSI CCS
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Username: presbspec

Post Number: 18
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 07:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

This thread has really peaked my curiosity!
I went to Dogpile.com and found the following website: http://www.cpsupplies.co.uk/dry-lining.htm . Drylining does appear to be a system as opposed to a specific product. This site was quite interesting.
Ralph Liebing
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 56
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Oh, Lynn, come on! Surely it is obvious that noggin's are blocking: and secret fixin's are concealed fastners!!!
Tracy Van Niel
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Username: tracy_van_niel

Post Number: 67
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hi Lynn:

I asked your question on a dog list that I belong too because there are many people from the UK and Europe who participate on it. Your assumption is correct. I was told that it was a "system" of both gypsum board AND studs together that made it drylining.
Lynn Javoroski
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 02:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks to all of you. What a great learning experience...and I've got other places to seek answers to boot! You guys are wonderful; and Colin, thanks yet again for this site. I don't know what I would do without it. It's so nice to get answers from people who I can trust!
Edd Soenke (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

For those of you looking for a great "collection" of definitions, defined terms and a glossary, please head north to Wayne Watson (Canadian member of the MasterFormat04 Task Team). In 1995/1996 Wayne copyrighted this document for Canucks to clarify terms in the "Front End" and Division 1. (w2@digicon.ab.ca).

Another source (unfortunately, also not online) is the BUILDING & CONSTRUCTION DICTIONARY (English-Russian) by Moscow International Publishers and L&H Publishing Co., Copenhagen, Siljangade 6, DK-2300, Denmark (Phone 45 32 96 49 49; Fax 45 32 96 98 49) L&H utilizes an enormous construction-related database and defines terms in sufficient detail that they can be translated into languages that may not have direct translation (I call this interpretation). Either way, it is one of my best references because a precise understanding of the term/definition must be delineated in order for it to be translated.

There are literally millioins of terms and expressions from a large number of construction sectors for direct application to tenders (it is British based), contracts, specifications, standards, patent documents, regulations and laws of a myriad of countries, operating manuals, user instructions, product information, technical descriptions and service manuals.

This fat little book teaches an architect how to accurately describe what he or she is trying to specify.

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