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Author Message Steve Falk (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:12 pm:    A professional LEED consultant on one of my projects has requested that a complete section in Division 1 called "Volatile Organic Compound Limits for Adhesives, Sealants and Architectural Coatings" be developed and included. Has any one out there come across this and if so, where would a section like this be available. Jo Drummond Senior Member Username: Jo_drummond Post Number: 73 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:35 pm:    Recommend you let him write it. He's probably making more money than you are for the whole book. Give him a format, or tell him you will format it, depending on how you feel about it. I have recently done several LEED projects and the LEED consultants have provided special sections, though not that specific one, and they have asked that certain provisions be inserted in various other sections. They did the writing. I just put it in the manuals. John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: John_regener Post Number: 109 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 12:10 am:    Doing a Division 1 Section on VOC's sounds like it would be appropriate if the project is design-build (i.e., performance specifications). Then, specifying performance characteristics and the criteria to measure whether the performance is achieved is appropriate. Otherwise, it seems more realistic to specify specific products in specifications sections in (current) Divisions 2 through 16, with LEED provisions included in the text of these specifications sections for documentation of actual performance values for products used in the work under the contract. An esoteric, academic dissertation on VOC's in Division 1 seems impractical to this specifier. Stephen H. Falk New member Username: Shfalk Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2002 Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 09:52 am:    Jo and John: Thanks for your comments. I agree with John that this is appropriate in a DB project and not in this type. We are required to include the VOC criteria in each section anyway and I think that the separate section is redundant and can (and probably will) contradict individual statement. Anonymous   Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 11:17 am:    Dontcha love it when "green" building consultants masquerade as specifiers? MasterSpec has a rather unwieldy Div01 section 01352 LEED Requirements that goes credit by credit and spits out all of the requirements that can be pushed onto the contractor. I don't like it much, but it might float the green building consultant's boat. I agree with letting him write it - just like I do with other consultants that feign ignorance about writing their own sections. I hand them unedited MasterSpec sections and let them have at it (then bring the hammer down when they send them back to me largely unedited). Ronald L. Geren, RA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: Specman Post Number: 12 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 12:06 pm:    You can compromise by adding a small Article or a Paragraph in Section 01600 "Product Requirements" to cover the general VOC requirements applicable to all products, and then, as John has stated, get more specific in each applicable Section. Stephen H. Falk Junior Member Username: Shfalk Post Number: 4 Registered: 08-2002 Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:17 pm:    Ron: That's an excellent idea, I think it will fly; thanks. Anonymous: We all have the same "high regard" for masqueraders, don't we? Thanks all Heather Huisinga, CSI, CCCA Senior Member Username: Huisinga Post Number: 24 Registered: 05-2002 Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:19 pm:    My two cents for what they're worth: My firm takes the approach of general VOC requirements in Section 01600 "Product Requirements" and specifying in more detail in each specific section. One reason being that if one "master" VOC section were used and then not given (imagine that) to a sub along with the section the sub is responsible for...the VOC requirement isn't always followed. Listing the VOC requirement in each specific section also "assures" that the person (not necessarily me--imagine that) reviewing the shop drawings has the VOC requirement in the spec section they're reviewing and knows that it is an intended requirement to watch for. Another reason is the special VOC section would be another list coordination effort that may or may not get completed before the Project Manual is issued. Dennis Hall (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 12:06 pm:    MF 04 is incorporating a Performace Requirements Section in Division 1 for sepecifying requirements that span more than one Division such as V.O.C. requirements. See the latest draft for more information.