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Tracy Van Niel
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Username: Tracy_van_niel

Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 09:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I posed a question to our project architects about including a contractor option to submit digital construction progress photos instead of hard copy photos. I've received a lot of comments back, but wondered if anyone else is currently including this option in their specs? Have there been any drawbacks or problems?

Thanks.
gerard sanchis
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Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Tracy:

We've been doing that same thing for about two years now. We request at least 2-megapixel resolution, but cameras available today will get up to 5 MP.
melfcsi
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Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Tracy

Here is the language I use. Most of my projects are Design/Build, where the Contractor and the Architet have worked together on numerous prior projects.

1.02 SUMMARY

A. This Section includes requirements for periodic construction photography by the Contractor, utilizing digital camera equipment, to demonstrate construction progress and to serve as a communicative device when describing a given condition to others at a remote location, by means of the internet.

PART 2 - PRODUCTS

2.01 EQUIPMENT

A. Photography shall be taken using a digital camera and electronic program which will download the digital photos in a JPEG format to a computer with resolution adequate to demonstrate the item under discussion.

2.02 PRINTS

A. Prints will not be required. The JPEG files shall be transmitted to the appropriate parties who shall then have the option to view the picture(s) on screen or print them out using their own equipment.

PART 3 - EXECUTION

3.01 TECHNIQUE

A. It is the intention of this Section to provide a tool to enhance communications and reduce the amount of time required to address questions arising at the Project site. In this end, the Contractor shall utilize good judgment in providing photographs that are informative, and not merely repeating what is shown in the other photographs.

B. Provide factual representation of construction extent and conditions. Provide correct exposure and focus, high resolution and sharpness, maximum depth of field, and minimum distortion, utilizing a normal lens.
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 04:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We require digital photography as well (as an option for the project manager depending on the project). We require 2 megapixel resolution; 4 x 5 prints on special photo paper; and a CD-ROM as a closeout document with photos in JPEG format, with an index.
Heather Huisinga, CDT
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 12:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

This topic bothers me.....

These electronic photos can easily be manipulated to show or not show something. I've altered many pictures in my personal life (like taking the "red" out of eyes or "defining" something a little better).

My firm recently had a lecturer on whether or not electronic media is admissable in a court of law...bottom line...electronic media (intentionally or un-intentionally) can be changed and therefore is not admissable in a court of law. Several members of our team wondered that if multiple people received the same copy of something electronically, then that could act as a "double-check" to make sure tampering had not occured. Well...what if it was tampered with before "you" got it? Again, not admissable in a court of law....at this point in time.

I was involved with a project last year or so where a Contractor altered a digital photograph to prove he had installed something earlier than he actually had done. Obviously we found out about it, but it did creat a grey area that made everyone uncomfortable when trying to "put a foot down".

Pictures of all media can be altered, but digital does make it easier...quite a bit so. This type of media allows tasks to get done faster, but is it worth it if you cannot prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law?
Anne Whitacre
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Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 05:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

our office uses language comparable to Mel Cole's -- AND we use our own digital photos that are sent along with field observations for contractor correction. I haven't seen "regular" photos in the four years I've been in this office.
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 07:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I just spoke with a construction law attorney who represents owners, contractors, and design professionals in court. Richard said that digital photos are admissable in court. Like every piece of evidence they have to be "authenticated". This means the photographer must verify that the photo was taken by him/her and reasonably represents the item pictured.
Dennis Hall (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree with David. I recently had this same conversation with a construction attorney. Unless he is willing to call you a liar on the stand and prove it, digital photos are admissable in court.

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