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Helaine K. Robinson CCS
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 81
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am working on the following Coordination Checklists:

Top Ten Conflicts at Interface between Drawings and Specifications

Top Ten Conflicts at Interfaces between Disciplines: Arch/Civil/Landscape, Arch/Structural, Arch/Mech, Arch/Elec, Mech/Elec etc.....

I can come up with many good ones but thought that folks who read 4specs.com might want to contribute as well....
Lynn Javoroski
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 153
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 01:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The use of "canned" details, like wall types, that lead to specifying materials not used on a particular project. We get lambasted for using unedited master specs, but designers, it seems, can use unedited "master" drawings. If we are expected to produce project-specific specifications, I would think that designers should be expected to produce project-specific drawings.
Helaine K. Robinson CCS
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 82
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 01:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks! Here is some of the stuff I've written down so far:

OOPS! Top Ten Conflicts at Interface between Drawings and Specifications
(plus a few internal inconsistencies)


Drawings and Specifications having different Project Title or Number etc...

References to non-existent CMs, clients, consultants, utilities, specification sections etc…

References to inapplicable or outdated codes and standards

Numerous ways of referring to the Owner.

Inconsistent abbreviations and terminology

Specifications provided for items not on the Drawings.

Drawing details for items which are not specified

Alternates shown on Drawings don't agree with Alternates described in Specifications.

Construction facilities/temporary controls specified not agreeing with what's on Drawings.

Drawings or specification sections recycled without review from a previous job for another client

Drawing Index found on Drawing Cover Sheet doesn't match Drawing Index found in the Project Manual.

Drawing Index found on Drawing Cover Sheet doesn't match drawings actually provided.

Table of Contents lists sections not included in the Project Manual or doesn't list sections which are included in the Project Manual.
Doug Frank FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: doug_frank_ccs

Post Number: 86
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 03:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Different "Issue Date" r "Issued For" on drawings and Project Manual.

Drawing references (and sometimes references in other spec sections) to specific sections that don't exist, or exist under a different name or number.

Plumbing spec includes specific paint manufacturer and type for painting pipes.

Electrical spec includes specific manufacturer (but incorrect product) for sealing penetrations.

Closeout requirements not coordinated between Division 01 and Divisions 21, 22, 23,,and 26.

I could go on and on
Helaine K. Robinson CCS
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 83
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 03:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I want to produce a bunch of these and serialize them in an office newsletter to educate inexperienced PAs and remind the older ones....

Here are my categories of Discipline Interfaces so far:

OOPS! Top Ten Conflicts at Interfaces between Disciplines

Construction Manager & Everybody Else:
Civil & Architectural:
Landscape Design & Architectural:
Structural & Architectural:
Hardware Consultant & Architectural:
Hardware Consultant & Electrical:
Interior Design & Architectural:
Interior Design & Electrical:
Food Service Equipment & Architectural:
Lab Design & Architectural:
Plumbing & Architectural:
Fire Protection & Architectural:
Plumbing & Electrical:
Plumbing & Fire Protection:
Fire Protection & Electrical:
HVAC & Architectural:
HVAC & Electrical:
Electrical & Architectural:
Lighting Design & Architectural:
Lighting Design & Fire Protection:
Lighting Design & HVAC:
Security Consultant & Architectural:
Security Consultant & Electrical:
Ralph Liebing
Senior Member
Username: rliebing

Post Number: 110
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 04:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

How about "Code and Regulatory Agencies & Architects"?

Some scoff-- but it is important
Steven T. Lawrey, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Intermediate Member
Username: lawrey

Post Number: 4
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 01:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Here are a few that I frequently see:

1. Mechanical/plumbing/electrical engineers' specs that are written as if there is a MPE prime contractor or as if the project includes only MPE work (which is not the case). They insist on including a section entitled "Mechanical and Electrical General Requirements" and cover submittals, substitution procedures, product requirements, closeout submittals, and other subjects that belong in Division 1.
2. General notes on drawings that summarize (and sometimes conflict with) points covered in standard General Conditions.
3. Drawing details that look more like shop drawings.
Valarie Harris CSI CCPR
Intermediate Member
Username: valarieh

Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 03:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Security Consultant and Hardware Consultant

Does Hardware Consultant know where card readers and thus electrified hardware will be needed?

Valarie
Tobin Oruch, CDT
Senior Member
Username: oruch

Post Number: 7
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 03:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

http://www.redicheck-review.com They sell review services but also a book for $22.50 that includes lots of discipline interface checklists.
John McGrann
Senior Member
Username: jmcgrann

Post Number: 34
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 03:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Regarding details, retaining the note containing the phrase "by others" when using manufacturer's details.
David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: davidcombs

Post Number: 8
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 06:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

As a follow-up to Steven L.'s posting:

I have also seen instances where M-E-P engineers include provisions on . . .
earthwork operations (already addressed in Division 2),
concrete placement (already addressed in Division 3),
miscellaneous steel angle supports (already addressed in Division 5),
wood blocking for supports (already addressed in Division 6),
equipment curbs (already addressed in Division 7),
sealing / firestopping of through penetrations (already addressed in Division 7),
joint sealants (already addressed in Division 7),
access doors (already addressed in Division 8), and
painting (already addressed in Division 9).

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