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Don Harris CSI, CCS, CCCA, AIA Senior Member Username: don_harris
Post Number: 291 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 - 11:58 am: | |
In numerous discussions people have tossed around the concept of defining all of the contractors requirements and the points being sought in a Division 01 section and leaving it up to the contractor to determine where to get the points and to document them. This has always given me a queasy feeling but considering all of the different systems out there, it is starting to feel like it may possibly be a good idea. To that end, has anyone had success with the Division 01 only method and what were the pros and cons? Thanks in advance. |
David J. Wyatt, CDT Senior Member Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt
Post Number: 155 Registered: 03-2011
| Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 - 01:36 pm: | |
Don, Ten years ago, I took the more cautious route and put sustainable design requirements in each division where they applied. I saved myself some of the duplication by putting the requirements in Common Work Results sections. But still it was time-consuming. Gradually, I became persuaded to put the requirements in Division 01 and leave the sorting out to the Contractor. The main reason is that the documentation isn't so new any more to the contractors. They do a good job when we leave it to them to plan it and make it happen. |
Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap Senior Member Username: lgoodrob
Post Number: 302 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 - 01:51 pm: | |
While this is an interesting and appealing approach (for the A/E team anyway), I would definitely not recommend this approach for LEED v4 projects. In September 2016, why bother creating a new approach for a sunset version of LEED? Here in Boston/Cambridge, I've been working with a group of architects, specifiers, LEED consultants, sustainability directors, and contractors to figure out the MR/EQ credits for LEED v4. Our discussions over the past year have led us to create a GreenBuild presentation for Los Angeles, to share what we have learned. It's education session A12 In a Materials Quandary. We think the materials and methods for achieving credits should be clearly indicated in the specifications, before bidding. As part of our presentation, we'll be sharing our new Section 018113 Sustainable Design Requirements, a new contractor submittal form, and specialized language for technical sections. Sign up today! I'd love to see more specifiers in the audience. It's not sold out yet! - |
Phil Kabza Senior Member Username: phil_kabza
Post Number: 570 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2016 - 06:15 pm: | |
Lisa: I hope you can make your presentation available via recording or transcript. Frankly, v4 worries me greatly. I've avoided it up to now. It appears to have been put together without regard for its complexity, which at some point will erode enthusiasm for using LEED. |
Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap Senior Member Username: lgoodrob
Post Number: 304 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - 02:59 pm: | |
Phil: That is a good point about eroding enthusiasm. Thank you for your interest in our presentation. GreenBuild makes recordings of educational sessions available (for a fee). It will be an actual recording, not just a PDF slide deck. We'll be presenting at the CSI Boston Chapter meeting in October, and we may submit it for Construct 2017 too. - |
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