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Author Message Anonymous   Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 03:28 pm:    Has anyone used the US version of Green Globes as an alternative to the LEED rating system? How easy is it to use? Better or worse that LEED? Any information greatly appreciated. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 05:03 pm:    I just took a look at the new Green Globes green building rating system (www.thegbi.org) and it looks pretty good. Has anyone used this system? Anonymous   Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 03:21 pm:    Nice phishing expedition GG boys.... say I'll remain anonymous too! The system looks very subjective with a nice payoff to the 3rd party to validate one's self assessments. Anonymous   Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 07:43 am:    So, the consensus is . . . nobody will touch GG with a 10 foot pole? Anonymous = nobody, right? David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: davidcombs Post Number: 134 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 09:32 am:    Provided, of course, that the pole, nonetheless, is made from wood obtained from forests certified by an FSC-accredited certification body to comply with FSC 1.2, "Principles and Criteria.". Doug Frank FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: doug_frank_ccs Post Number: 148 Registered: 06-2002 Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 08:26 am:    I’m confused; why all the “Anonymity” about Green Globes? Who’s hiding, and why”? I visited the Green Globes booth in Las Vegas and got the short story about how it’s and “Alternative” to USGBC but came away with the feeling that it is really in direct competition with USGBC. I don’t have personal knowledge of the details or specific differences between the two and can’t speak to the benefits or drawbacks of either. I also think I heard that a member of the CSI Ex Comm is directly involved with Green Globes. I sure hope CSI isn’t planning to discard its allegiance with USGBC for an endorsement of Green Globes; ESPECIALLY with the current level of mistrust that exists for Ex Comm members. Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 205 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:20 am:    CSI generally does not favor one source of standards or information over another; given the makeup of its membership, that would be suicidal. For example, CSI works with more than one source of master guide specifications, and does not promote one over another. USGBC is one source for "sustainable design" ratings, but there are others - and there may be more to come as standards for green design evolve. LEED was one of the first to be relatively complete and usable, but it does have some annoying problems. USGBC recognizes LEED's shortcomings, and is working to resolve them, but we should be ready to consider other, possibly better, options as they come on line. Participation by ExCom members should not influence CSI's decision; if it did, USGBC would be suspect, as one of its leading proponents - Ross Spiegel - is a former CSI president. To discourage active participation in the industry would eliminate some of our best members from leadership positions. anon (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2014 - 01:36 pm:    GBI (Green Globes rating system) gains even greater credibility in naming new President to usher in recent changes: http://www.sacbee.com/2014/01/06/6049310/green-building-initiative-welcomes.html Peggy White, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: peggy Post Number: 69 Registered: 07-2007 Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 12:44 pm:    Doug Paul Bertram was a long time member of the Board of Directors of GBI, from back in the day when it was started up by the wood industry to attempt quash FSC by creating a rival to LEED that presents 'alternative' wood certification systems as being equal to FSC. Now the chemical industry has taken over GBI to try to quash the movement towards product content transparency. GBI is their name, but quashing is their game! Gotta love those Anons! ;o) ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 676 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 02:02 pm:    It seems like Anons are like lawyers; 90 percent give the rest a bad name. Having looked at both rating systems, and BREEAM in the past, and being pretty fed up with the politics of "Green" that USGBC tends to impose, I'm open to Green Globes. Competition has almost always been a positive thing. Considering that LEED seems to be incorporating a witch hunt against compounds that, to a great extent, have served us well despite environmental downsides, that seems to diminish some of the value USGBC brings. If GBI is more pragmatic regarding current realities, that's not a bad thing. LEED seems more interested in using a stick where GBI seems more interested using a carrot. If GBI makes it easier to acknowledge positive environmental actions by not imposing prerequisites, more power to them. I like having the option of choosing a system that is more conducive to my clients' needs. anon (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 12:01 pm:    Here is an EBN interview with Jerry Yudelson that I found very interesting: http://www.leeduser.com/blogs/leed-fellow-jerry-yudelson-lead-rival-green-globes-gbi