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Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 2039
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The manufacturer provided specs for Section 05730, where would this convert to in current format, 057300 is Metal Railings?
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 1557
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 12:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

05730 was "Ornamental Formed Metals" per MF95.

I would use 05 70 00 "Decorative Metal."
Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
J. Peter Jordan
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Username: jpjordan

Post Number: 1102
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 08:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I may have a similar issue on an upcoming project. Architect wants to use a tensile metal mesh on a facade (rainscreen). I am not really scratching my head yet, but I am wondering where in Division 07 I am going to put this sucker.
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1813
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 03:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Jerome, Where is this mesh being used? Handrail/guardrail infill panel? Will it be part of a metal stair system?
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1814
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 03:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Peter, That is not a rainscreen system. It is a rainsieve or rainstrainer system.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 2040
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 09:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David, facade for Parking Garage.
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 2041
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 09:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The manufacturer sent a 16 division spec 05730, need 48 division section number.
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 1558
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 02:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

"48 division section number"? I thought MasterFormat had 50 divisions...
Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 2042
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 02:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

48 DIVISIONS OF SPECIFICATIONS, THE REMAINING 2 DIVISIONS ARE DOCUMENTS.
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 1559
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 03:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Actually, its 49 divisions of specifications and 1 with documents.

Division 00 is only documents; Division 01 (I'm assuming you're referring to this division) is specifications.
Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 2043
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 03:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Actually I have never received any specifications for Project Manuals beyond Div 33. What is the title for Div 49?
Marc Chavez
Senior Member
Username: mchavez

Post Number: 501
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 03:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

ummmm go to the website masterformat.com redirects you to the current page. and 49 includes 00 so it stops at 48

but here you go
00 00 00 Procurement and Contracting Requirements
01 00 00 General Requirements
02 00 00 Existing Conditions
03 00 00 Concrete
04 00 00 Masonry
05 00 00 Metals
06 00 00 Wood, Plastics, and Composites
07 00 00 Thermal and Moisture Protection
08 00 00 Openings
09 00 00 Finishes
10 00 00 Specialties
11 00 00 Equipment
12 00 00 Furnishings
13 00 00 Special Construction
14 00 00 Conveying Equipment
21 00 00 Fire Suppression
22 00 00 Plumbing
23 00 00 Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning (HVAC)
25 00 00 Integrated Automation
26 00 00 Electrical
27 00 00 Communications
28 00 00 Electronic Safety and Security
31 00 00 Earthwork
32 00 00 Exterior Improvements
33 00 00 Utilities
34 00 00 Transportation
35 00 00 Waterway and Marine Construction
40 00 00 Process Interconnections
41 00 00 Material Processing and Handling Equipment
42 00 00 Process Heating, Cooling, and Drying Equipment
43 00 00 Process Gas and Liquid Handling, Purification, and Storage Equipment
44 00 00 Pollution and Waste Control Equipment
45 00 00 Industry-Specific Manufacturing Equipment
46 00 00 Water and Wastewater Equipment
48 00 00 Electrical Power Generation
cut and pasted by yours truly
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: specman

Post Number: 1560
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 04:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Division 49 is held in reserve.
Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 2044
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 04:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks Marc.
T.J. Simons, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: tsimons

Post Number: 20
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 11:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

This material usually ends up as part of a railing or architectural screen assembly, so I have typically included it in the relevant section, treating it like welded wire or expanded metal railing infill panels
RICHARD GONSER (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 11:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

FYI, MasterFormat lists 10 82 00 - Grilles and Screens.
This is the category where I've put similar products like GKD Metals mesh products.
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting

Post Number: 300
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 01:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree w/ Richard Gonser, and typically spec parking garage facade systems in 108213 "Exterior Architectural Screens."

Like T.J. Simons, I would spec woven fabric used in a railing guard in 057300 "Decorative Metal Railings."

And I agree w/ Ron Geren -- MasterFormat is a 50-Division system.
Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP
Wilson Consulting Inc
Ardmore PA
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 2046
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 01:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks Richard, Jeffrey, I wanted to use Section 108213, just needed support from my peers.
Dan Helphrey
Senior Member
Username: dbhelphrey

Post Number: 35
Registered: 12-2018
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 02:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We do not speak the names of the shunned sections.

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