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Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2039 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 10:43 pm: | |
The manufacturer provided specs for Section 05730, where would this convert to in current format, 057300 is Metal Railings? |
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 1557 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 12:28 am: | |
05730 was "Ornamental Formed Metals" per MF95. I would use 05 70 00 "Decorative Metal." Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 1102 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 08:41 am: | |
I may have a similar issue on an upcoming project. Architect wants to use a tensile metal mesh on a facade (rainscreen). I am not really scratching my head yet, but I am wondering where in Division 07 I am going to put this sucker. J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
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David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt
Post Number: 1813 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 03:16 pm: | |
Jerome, Where is this mesh being used? Handrail/guardrail infill panel? Will it be part of a metal stair system? David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC |
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt
Post Number: 1814 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 03:18 pm: | |
Peter, That is not a rainscreen system. It is a rainsieve or rainstrainer system. David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC |
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2040 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 09:31 am: | |
David, facade for Parking Garage. |
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2041 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 09:32 am: | |
The manufacturer sent a 16 division spec 05730, need 48 division section number. |
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 1558 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 02:17 pm: | |
"48 division section number"? I thought MasterFormat had 50 divisions... Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2042 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 02:51 pm: | |
48 DIVISIONS OF SPECIFICATIONS, THE REMAINING 2 DIVISIONS ARE DOCUMENTS. |
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 1559 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 03:15 pm: | |
Actually, its 49 divisions of specifications and 1 with documents. Division 00 is only documents; Division 01 (I'm assuming you're referring to this division) is specifications. Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2043 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 03:34 pm: | |
Actually I have never received any specifications for Project Manuals beyond Div 33. What is the title for Div 49? |
Marc Chavez Senior Member Username: mchavez
Post Number: 501 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 03:45 pm: | |
ummmm go to the website masterformat.com redirects you to the current page. and 49 includes 00 so it stops at 48 but here you go 00 00 00 Procurement and Contracting Requirements 01 00 00 General Requirements 02 00 00 Existing Conditions 03 00 00 Concrete 04 00 00 Masonry 05 00 00 Metals 06 00 00 Wood, Plastics, and Composites 07 00 00 Thermal and Moisture Protection 08 00 00 Openings 09 00 00 Finishes 10 00 00 Specialties 11 00 00 Equipment 12 00 00 Furnishings 13 00 00 Special Construction 14 00 00 Conveying Equipment 21 00 00 Fire Suppression 22 00 00 Plumbing 23 00 00 Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning (HVAC) 25 00 00 Integrated Automation 26 00 00 Electrical 27 00 00 Communications 28 00 00 Electronic Safety and Security 31 00 00 Earthwork 32 00 00 Exterior Improvements 33 00 00 Utilities 34 00 00 Transportation 35 00 00 Waterway and Marine Construction 40 00 00 Process Interconnections 41 00 00 Material Processing and Handling Equipment 42 00 00 Process Heating, Cooling, and Drying Equipment 43 00 00 Process Gas and Liquid Handling, Purification, and Storage Equipment 44 00 00 Pollution and Waste Control Equipment 45 00 00 Industry-Specific Manufacturing Equipment 46 00 00 Water and Wastewater Equipment 48 00 00 Electrical Power Generation cut and pasted by yours truly |
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 1560 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 04:09 pm: | |
Division 49 is held in reserve. Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2044 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 04:17 pm: | |
Thanks Marc. |
T.J. Simons, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: tsimons
Post Number: 20 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 11:43 am: | |
This material usually ends up as part of a railing or architectural screen assembly, so I have typically included it in the relevant section, treating it like welded wire or expanded metal railing infill panels |
RICHARD GONSER (Unregistered Guest)
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| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 11:55 am: | |
FYI, MasterFormat lists 10 82 00 - Grilles and Screens. This is the category where I've put similar products like GKD Metals mesh products. |
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP Senior Member Username: wilsonconsulting
Post Number: 300 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 01:00 pm: | |
I agree w/ Richard Gonser, and typically spec parking garage facade systems in 108213 "Exterior Architectural Screens." Like T.J. Simons, I would spec woven fabric used in a railing guard in 057300 "Decorative Metal Railings." And I agree w/ Ron Geren -- MasterFormat is a 50-Division system. Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP Wilson Consulting Inc Ardmore PA |
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2046 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 01:22 pm: | |
Thanks Richard, Jeffrey, I wanted to use Section 108213, just needed support from my peers. |
Dan Helphrey Senior Member Username: dbhelphrey
Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2018
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 02:51 pm: | |
We do not speak the names of the shunned sections. |
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