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Jerome J. Lazar, CCS, CSI
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1979
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 04:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Section Number, in Div 5 or Div 7. Arch is using as siding?
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 747
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 04:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Jerry,

I'm siding with Div. 7 Work results.
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 1537
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 05:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My vote is for 07 42 13 Metal Wall Panels.
Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 09:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Don't we specify based on "results"...among others? In this case the "result" is a vertical wall surface...siding (Div 07).
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1763
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 12:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My vote is 074213.13 Formed Metal Wall Panels.

Section 074213 Metal Wall Panels is an upper level section that includes:
074213.13 Formed Metal Wall Panels
074213.16 Metal Plate Wall Panels
074213.19 Insulated Metal Wall Panels
074213.23 Metal Composite Material Wall Panels

Yes specify how the product is used, for example steel pipe can be used as a plumbing pipe, electrical conduit, handrail or bollard. Even though it may be the same material, those steel pipes are specified in different sections.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Michael Heinsdorf, P.E.
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Username: michael_heinsdorf_pe

Post Number: 32
Registered: 01-2014
Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 12:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Off topic, but David's comment is not exactly true. All pipe is not conduit, and all conduit is not pipe. May look the same, but if there are different labels, they are different products. Would not want to use Electrical Metallic Tubing or EMT for plumbing because of wall thickness, connectors, and the ability to handle a dynamic load.
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 262
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Friday, March 29, 2019 - 10:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Regarding Michael's comment, keep in mind also that 1-1/2 inch pipe and 1-1/2 inch tube, for example, have different I.D. and O.D. dimensions.
Jerome J. Lazar, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1982
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 07:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks for everyone's input.

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