Post Number: 604
|Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 01:59 pm: |
It's been a while since anyone ranted about this, so it's my turn. I just received 150 consultant files to combine into a composite PDF project manual. Our section numbering is 000000, the EE's is 00 0000; and the HVAC and Plumbing is 00 00 00. No one paid attention to my coordination outline sent at the beginning of the project. I really wanted to spend an hour picking spaces out of the filenames in Windows Explorer - such a good use of my time.
What on earth was the original MasterFormat Comm thinking when they avoided creating a standard and left the numbering format as optional. Spec writing consultants, SEs, CEs, and MEPs work for multiple offices choosing multiple numbering formats.
Our time would be much better spent concentrating on serious content and coordinating issues, instead of this kind of trivia. Grrrrrrrrr.
|Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C|
Post Number: 392
|Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 02:39 pm: |
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|Don Harris CSI, CCS, CCCA, AIA|
Post Number: 302
|Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 02:45 pm: |
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Post Number: 1009
|Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 04:52 pm: |
I detest blanks; hyphens more clearly show which digits are part of the same number. Our Word files used xx-xxxx format, and SpecLink allows the same. Our main consultants had no problem changing their numbers to match. For those that didn't, I finally gave up the battle. Consistency would be nice, but apparently, no one was confused by the use of different number formats.
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Post Number: 1010
|Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 05:05 pm: |
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|Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C|
Post Number: 394
|Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 06:13 pm: |
Separators were for people who were afraid of seeing 6 digits run together back when MF04 was new. (Just my opinion, of course. 5 digits is what looks weird now. I write them that way if required, though.)
|David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP|
Post Number: 1646
|Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 06:15 pm: |
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David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Axt Consulting LLC
Post Number: 605
|Posted on Friday, April 06, 2018 - 02:32 pm: |
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|Robin E. Snyder|
Post Number: 728
|Posted on Friday, April 06, 2018 - 03:57 pm: |
I have recently started sending files back that aren't named properly (in my instructions I state: Files should be named as “XXXXXX section name”. Sections not in this format will be returned to be renamed"). If it's landscape with 2-3 sections i do it myself, MPE, I send back now. Even w/ a batch renamer, it's not my job. The architect has clear instructions on naming conventions for drawings that have to be followed, the same applies for spec files
|Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, NCARB|
Post Number: 1877
|Posted on Friday, April 06, 2018 - 05:20 pm: |
I agree Robin, I state in my agreement what I will and will not accept from a Consultant. Once I am under contract and I know which Consultants are providing spec sections for the project manual, I send them a sample spec section as a guide for formatting. I never modify a Consultant's nor a manufacturer's spec section. Even when canned Elevator specs are used, I never touch them.
Post Number: 1012
|Posted on Friday, April 06, 2018 - 07:45 pm: |
I believe the xx xx xx format came from the OmniClass tables. In most cases, the pairs of digits represent MasterFormat Levels, but there are inconsistencies in Level 2 numbers. I'm not sure why MasterFormat ended up with optional formats, but if I recall correctly, ARCOM suggested xx-xxxx. I also don't understand why spaces are used instead of hyphens in OmniClass.