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Author Message Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, NCARB Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1830 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Monday, November 20, 2017 - 04:57 pm:    Div 10, how about a section number, 107100? Ronald L. Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman Post Number: 1483 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Monday, November 20, 2017 - 05:50 pm:    Screened enclosures for what? 10 71 13 Exterior Sun Control Devices 10 82 00 Grilles and Screens (10 82 13 Exterior Grilles and Screens, 10 82 23 Interior Grilles and Screens) 10 22 23 Portable Partitions, Screens, and Panels Ron Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP Senior Member Username: wilsonconsulting Post Number: 240 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, November 20, 2017 - 05:56 pm:    Depending on products & applications, there are a few possibilities: MasterFormat has 108200 Grilles & Screens, 108213 Exterior Grilles & Screens, and 10 8219 Exterior Sound Screens. I have riffed on these with 108215 Exterior Equipment Screens (for metal panel systems, usually acoustical) + 108216 Rooftop Equipment Screens (for CityScapes "Envisor" equipment-mounted screens). MasterFormat also has 089200 Louvered Equipment Enclosures. Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP Wilson Consulting Inc Ardmore PA Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, NCARB Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1831 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Monday, November 20, 2017 - 06:00 pm:    This is a simple patio screen enclosure, manuf from painted aluminum for an adult congregate living facility. Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP Senior Member Username: wilsonconsulting Post Number: 241 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, November 20, 2017 - 06:14 pm:    Then 108213 Exterior Grilles & Screens fits the bill. I would probably change the title to something more specific like "Exterior Architectural Screens" or "Exterior Patio Screens." Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP Wilson Consulting Inc Ardmore PA Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, NCARB Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1832 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Monday, November 20, 2017 - 08:14 pm:    Jeffrey, So I can just change 108200 to another section name, you mean the spec police won't be upset? This is a HUD job, I don't want to cause a riff. Sorry, its been a tough day. Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP Senior Member Username: wilsonconsulting Post Number: 242 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 - 09:26 am:    Jerome, I think you're safe. I use made-up section names & numbers all the time, including on HUD projects. MasterFormat is designed for that flexibility, and HUD reviewers are typically looking for other, very specific things. Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP Wilson Consulting Inc Ardmore PA Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 994 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 - 09:43 pm:    I also create new numbers and titles, but I don't change the title of an assigned number or the number of an assigned title. The people in this forum worry about these things far more than anyone else. I would be shocked if any client commented on section numbers or titles they had not already claimed as their own.