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David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1473
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am specifying a vegetated climbing wall that is just a fancy stainless steel welded wire fence. What section number/title have you used?
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Dave Metzger
Senior Member
Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 633
Registered: 07-2001


Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 01:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We have specified various types of green screen assemblies. I've typically specified them in one of the 055000-series metal fabrications sections. Yes, they're stainless steel, but the stainless is used for functional rather than decorative purposes, and appearance is not a top priority.
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2

Post Number: 541
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 02:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

When the project has the services of a Landscape Architect providing full services including drawings and specifications, they put it where ever they want to, including DIV 05 - METALS, DIV 12 - FURNISHINGS (Site Furnishings) or DIV 32 - SITE IMPROVEMENTS. I may not agree with their choice, but if it is reasonably plausible I will not complain. I do insist that that if they are using DIV 05 they adjust their Section Name & Number so that it doesn't create a conflict with my DIV 05 Sections, such as adding the word "Site" or "Landscape" to the Section name and tweaking the Section number. If they ask my advice I like to have them add 32 to the Section Number as in 05 50 32 - Site Metal Fabrications, giving it a secret handshake to coordinate with their DIV 32.

When I am preparing the Section I put it in either the 055000 Series for Metal Fabrications, or sometimes 055800 Series for Decorative Metal.

I will most likely prepare the Section if it is attached to the building, but I would prefer the Landscape Architect to prepare it if it is the free-standing fence style green screen.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 135
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 02:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

When I wrote the Guide Spec for The GreenScreen Company, I gave following options for section title:
SECTION 10 82 00 TREILLAGE
SECTION 10 22 23 PORTABLE TREILLAGE
SECTION 32 31 00 FENCES
SECTION 32 35 00 SCREENING DEVICES
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting

Post Number: 190
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 04:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I would probably use 057000 Decorative Metal if it involved a custom-fabricated assembly.

For manufactured systems, I typically use 1082XX for freestanding or wall-attached plant support systems.

If it is truly a fence, 323119 Decorative Metal Fences is suitable for manufactured or custom-designed tyes.
Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP
Wilson Consulting Inc
Ardmore PA
Justatim
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Username: justatim

Post Number: 83
Registered: 04-2010
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 - 07:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

How about a subsection to 329500, Exterior Planting Support Structures?
Elias Saltz, CSI, CCS, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: elias_saltz

Post Number: 20
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2016 - 10:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I just now had the same question and found this thread. I also noticed that 4specs puts this item in Section 07 0840 which is not correct; that should be "Commissioning of Thermal and Moisture Protection"

I think there should be two separate sections for this, one for interior and another for exterior living walls.
Dave Metzger
Senior Member
Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 670
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2016 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

MasterFormat does indeed have two separate sections for this, one for interior and another for exterior living walls.

097753 Vegetated Wall Systems (this is a child of 097700 Special Wall Surfacing)

329500 Exterior Planting Support Structures (includes trellis, treillage, green wall, arbor, and climbing support netting)

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