Anti-loitering speaker - section number?

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Author Message Christopher Borcsok Senior Member Username: ckb Post Number: 32 Registered: 06-2013 Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 09:54 pm:    School client has asked for anti-loitering equipment which emits a high frequency noise that is annoying to teenagers. Links sent to me through the architect is http://www.movingsoundtech.com/ The architect has asked if I have ever specs something like this before. First I had heard of it, so I have not, and the manufacturer doesn't have a spec for it. The only thing that remotely comes close is 27 51 19 Sound Masking Systems, or maybe assign a custom number under 27 53 00 Distributed Systems. Any other ideas? Ronald L. Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman Post Number: 1193 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 10:03 pm:    10 81 00 Pest Control Devices :-) Ron Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 719 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 10:37 pm:    Too honest Ron. It is pretty unique. Isn't this, in a way, a public address system? Perhaps it belongs in a new Section assigned under 27 51 16. Just for grins I tried out the age tests. All I could hear was the "60 Younger" and the "Everyone". I must have gone to too many Ramones concerts. I'm going to try this on my daughter. John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: john_regener Post Number: 685 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:07 pm:    Perhaps, just install a public address system that plays Lawrence Welk, young Donnie Osmond, bubblegum rock and, the ultimate weapon, Haley Mills ("Let's get together, yeah, yeah, yeah"). However, the last one was the unofficial Fight Song for my high school because, when it was played, everyone wanted to fight. Maybe there's an off-the-shelf system available from Musak that includes connection to 70's vintage elevator music. John McGrann Senior Member Username: jmcgrann Post Number: 114 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 08:15 am:    We had some local businesses try out that device, but they couldn't mount it far enough out of reach and the skateboard contingent responded by removing or disabling the devices. The local library has an extensive collection of classical music and has found playing it in the front portico area to be effective. Not so annoying that anyone goes after the speakers, but just enough to discourage loitering. John T. McGrann, Jr., AIA, CSI, CCS, LEED AP Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEEDŽ AP Senior Member Username: ecwhitby Post Number: 212 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 11:40 am:    I would like the classical music approach, but is it was playing "70's vintage elevator music", let alone "bubblegum" rock, I would be sorely tempted to go after the speakers myself. Besides, isn't playing"70's vintage elevator music" a human rights violation? It is certainly polluting. Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC Senior Member Username: redseca2 Post Number: 440 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 01:07 pm:    I live in San Francisco near the intersection of Haight and Ashbury. A few years back a shop there was having problems with street kids loitering in front, so they installed speakers that continuously played the "Barney Song", "I love you, you love me...." Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEEDŽ AP Senior Member Username: ecwhitby Post Number: 213 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 01:53 pm:    Thank you Steve for the "ear worm". I never thought that I would be ambushed by Barney at 4specs! James Sandoz, AIA, CSI Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 144 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 04:46 pm:    There is only one cure for an ear worm as malignant as that one but it is as bad as the disease itself: Captain and Tenille's Muskrat Love. ARRRRRGH! Make it stop. Make it STOP! We have a "sure fire" anti-loitering device here in Texas but it is manufactured by a firm in Springfield Mass. Anyone want to guess the name of that outfit? Ronald L. Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman Post Number: 1194 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 06:23 pm:    I carry one of their 380s with me just about every where I go. Ron Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: john_regener Post Number: 686 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 07:11 pm:    Barney Song? I like the version that goes, "I hate you. You hate me. We're a dysfunctional family. With a kick by you. And a shove by me. Now we're all in therapy." James Sandoz, AIA, CSI Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 145 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 07:50 pm:    Ron, it seems Arizona has everything Texas has except the sea shore. We certainly hope for the sake of our friends in California that it never does. Driving home today I did hear one of my favorite tunes, "Shot Through the Heart" by Bon Jovi. I tell my wife of 30 years that should be her theme song. I'm not sure she understands my allusion to Cupid's arrow. No, she is not manipulative of conniving. She is sweet and guileless and has proven over three plus decades to have the patience of Job. She does indeed own my heart.