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Author Message Ann G. Baker (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 08:13 pm:    I have a project on which the civil engineer needs to use the municipality's standards. I haven't seen the section he intends to put into the project manual, but when he sent me his TOC information, he assigned this section the number 49 00 00. That's not a division that we have at this point and I'd rather find a logical place for it within the current structure and numbering system. I haven't seen this section to see what all it entails - based on history with city standards from various locations, I'd guess that it could include everything from paving to underground utilities to fire hydrants. Any recommendations as to a single place to put this? I'm not inclined to ask the civil consultant to separate this out for paving and utilities and whatever else there may be, so I'm looking for one place that fits all (I know, I know - can't have it). If this is primarily underground utilities, would a logical location be 33 05 XX, under the guise of a common work results section? Now, if there are cross-divisional things thrown in (stuff from 32, 33, possibly even 31 though I'm not sure that's likely at all) then I have to drop back and punt because there really isn't a catch-all that I can figure out. There's not time to re-educate the city entity to rewrite and re-align their section, nor is that in my scope. Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 670 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 10:18 pm:    Logic suggests Division 30 as a superset of Series 30 specifications; the section number could be 30-0000. Yes, I know it's reserved, but it still makes sense. Ann G Baker (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 10:45 pm:    Thanks, Sheldon - that was my other thought and if we're using one that's unassigned or reserved somehow I'm more comfortable with a variation on a 30-something than 49. J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 600 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 08:49 am:    I will usually not assign a MasterFormat number, but simply list the standard specifications, usually at the end of the table of contents. Occasionally, the will not be "physicall" included, and I add a note to indicate that they are included by reference. Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 671 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 09:53 am:    That's what I do, as well. Ann G. Baker (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 01:23 pm:    I've never included the document but I have a civil telling me to expect this spec section. Maybe another alternative is to include it in an appendix. I have a feeling this is being mandated by the quasi-governmental client rather than the municipality involved. Thanks for the comments - clearly in the absence of spec police we handle things like this the most logical way applicable to the particular project. Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 1677 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 02:31 pm:    It may not be a "technical" section at all, but something similar to "Information available to Bidders" that I wouldn't assign a section number to. I'd be inclined to place it as Peter suggests or in Division 01, maybe 01 3513. Then create a "cover page" for it and insert. Robert W. Johnson Senior Member Username: robert_w_johnson Post Number: 239 Registered: 03-2009 Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 03:28 pm:    The important question is whether it is a part of the Contract Documents or not. If it is a part of the Contract Documents you do not want to make it a part of Information Available to Bidders. Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 1678 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 03:35 pm:    I seem to have chosen a bad document to use as an example. I simply meant that it was not a technical section, but perhaps had a broader scope than a single section or Division. Sorry if I was unclear. Christopher Borcsok Senior Member Username: ckb Post Number: 9 Registered: 06-2013 Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 11:36 pm:    Thinking aloud here, what about a section "00 01 30 - List of Details" for any details not bound in the project manual, or located on the drawings, and required for the project? I know locally, that if i reference OPSD #____, everyone knows what is being discussed... http://www.raqsb.mto.gov.on.ca/techpubs/ops.nsf/OPSHomepage