|Robin E. Snyder|
Post Number: 433
|Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 02:55 pm: |
I do a lot of TI projects that have interior chain link fences, so it seems odd to have it covered in Division 32 - Exterior Improvements. Any suggestions on what i should use for a number on interior chain link fencing and gates?
Post Number: 321
|Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 02:57 pm: |
How about http://www.4specs.com/s/10/10-2240.html Wire Mesh Partitions
435.654.5775 - Utah
|Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate|
Post Number: 1571
|Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 03:30 pm: |
Quite often when clients/owners state they want "chain link fence compartments" what they really mean is wire mesh partitions.
|John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP|
Post Number: 1455
|Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 04:08 pm: |
Well, chain link really is an product used primarily for exterior applications. I agree with Lynn that they may mean wire mesh partitions, which really do function better that chain link for most interior applications. But if the owner is sure that they want actual chain link, I'd just give it a different number and name to avoid confusion; perhaps 10 22 53 Chain Link Fencing Partitions.
|Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS|
Post Number: 82
|Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 04:10 pm: |
I have spec'd actual chain-link fence systems for interior applications using 102215 "Chain-Link Mesh Partitions" (a modification to 102213 "Wire Mesh Partitions").
A recent animal shelter project used chain-link systems for interior openings, which I spec'd in 108225 "Chain Link Gates" (a modification of 108223 "Interior Grilles & Screens").
|Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC|
Post Number: 376
|Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 12:37 am: |
I have clients too, who insist on an interior application of exterior chain link fencing. I guess it looks right to them, they are used to it, and they are the client. This might be where the cultural image of chain link is more important than the functionality.
I always put it in the DIV 10's, creating a logical sub-number from the wire mesh partition template.
Try as I might and show them the virtues of small cross section orthogonal posts, designed from the get-go for floor slab to ceiling slab anchorage, with ready to go interface with interior door hardware, not to mention powder coated in your choice of color. No!; They want those silly round posts, with afterthought slab anchorage brackets and all the soft tolerances that come with the quality assurance specs for chain link fencing Site Work.
Post Number: 593
|Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 02:51 pm: |
If you're a starchitect, it's in Division 09.
Post Number: 42
|Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 07:32 am: |
For those of us who are acronym impaired (we never tweet), what does "TI" stand for, as in "TI projects"?
Is it important to the question posed?
Here are a few possibilities that I found. Thanks.
TI Texas Instruments
TI Training Instructor
TI Technical Information
TI Treasure Island
TI Transparency International
TI Technical Institute
TI Time Interval
TI Toastmasters International
TI Technology Integration
TI Total Income
TI Taxable Income
TI Terminally Ill
TI Tenant Improvements
TI Technical Inspection
TI Technical Intelligence
TI Textile Institute
TI Technology Intelligence
TI Total Insanity
TI Tactical Intelligence
TI Technical Investigation
TI Temporary Interment
|Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS|
Post Number: 83
|Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 07:46 am: |
TI = Tenant Improvements: Generally referring to projects involving only interior construction, and more specifically to leased space.
Post Number: 342
|Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 09:41 am: |
Curious: How do you stablize chain link fences at interior applications? Do you embed the posts into the concrete or bolt down a receiver to the face of the concrete to support the post? How high can the fence be? Do you use a toprail or tension wire? Do you need to rely on wall mounted attachments or bracing? Floor-to-ceiling attachments?
|scott piper (Unregistered Guest)|
|Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 09:43 am: |
We have also typically placed interior chain link in division ten. I do believe there are areas where interior chain link is appropriate in lieu of wire mesh partitions. IE: animal shelters (powder coat looks nice but urine is not it's friend), interior batting cages, police stations in the sallyport areas.
We have also used square posts in lieu of the round ones at times because is makes attachement details easier to assemble. Your typical fencing contractor can get the square posts easily as long as you give them some notice.
Post Number: 594
|Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 10:45 am: |
Ken, our typical installation fills an opening, so the side posts and bottom rail are anchored to walls and floor. Top rail, no tension wire. If it fills the opening, the top rail is anchored above. Tool cribs and other designs that are free-standing or require corner posts are done with wire mesh partitions.
|J. Peter Jordan|
Post Number: 505
|Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 11:40 am: |
I have specified this for interior storage spaces where it doesn't have to look that good and doesn't have to be that secure. I aways make sure the client understands what they are getting. Sometimes you have to spend the money on a wire mesh partition system.