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Ronald J. Ray, RA, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: rjray

Post Number: 92
Registered: 04-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 08:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am involved with a project that consist of tornado shelter additions to existing schools. Due to the degree of difficulty of including plumbing utilities within these spaces, it has been decided to use a portable toilet within a private room.

What 6 digit specification section would one include this type of product?

Thanks
Ron
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 183
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 09:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Normally I would just list them in 01 5219 Sanitary Facilities, but that is really for temporary facilities used during construction.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1428
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 09:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

And this is something like a portable toilet used in boats or for camping, right? So it's a piece of equipment; that puts it in Division 11. Would it fit in the 11 3000 Residential Equipment category? (11 3600 or something like that?)
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 559
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 09:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

It's a rented or leased piece of equipment, so why include it in a construction contract? Leave a space for it, and let the owner get it under a separate service contract.
Ronald J. Ray, RA, CCS, CCCA
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Username: rjray

Post Number: 93
Registered: 04-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 05:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I thought my post was clear in that this is a permanent part of the building, not temporary or rented. It lacks a plumbing connection and is portable.

Lynn, it is like what is used for camping and boats. So I guess it is equipment and not a plumbing fixture. If that is the case, Division 11 makes sense. However, I would not consider it residential equipment.

Maybe under “Other Equipment” as 119900 - Poop Equipment
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1430
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 05:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Well, I was looking at Solid Waste Disposal Equipment...maybe just "Waste Disposal"? Although the nautical theme could follow with the Poop Deck idea...
Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: rlmat

Post Number: 488
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 05:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

In nautical terms, it's called a "Head".
You might want to look at the toilet systems for boats and RV's which include a holding tank for "pump out".
Justatim
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Username: justatim

Post Number: 33
Registered: 04-2010
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 07:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I would consider this item to be a toilet fixture whether or not it's connected to piping... such as a composting or incinerating toilet. 4-Specs has them under 22 42 70.

Unfortunately, I cannot at present access MasterFormat's up-to-date section and numbers list--a foul up in their login system, I suspect.

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