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Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 386
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 02:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Any suggestions on where to put the specialty metal panels/railing systems that are intended for rodeo arenas (to help direct the animals in and out of the arena)? Would you include them in 0552xx somewhere as a metal railing?

How about horse stalls? Somewhere around 131900 as a variation of a kennel?
Marc C Chavez
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Username: mchavez

Post Number: 439
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 02:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

IMHO

I ageee with the Div 13 for stalls etc. the "fencing" could be in a number of places but as it's not decorative or "site" related 05 seems safest.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
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Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 1236
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 03:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Iv'e done a lot of pig and cow things - all in Division 13. I think there is a link there for veterinary equipment. (I even did a weight scale for sea lions. it had a very shallow ramp leading up to it so they could walk up and weigh themselves.)
Justatim
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Username: justatim

Post Number: 27
Registered: 04-2010
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 09:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

131923--Pig and Cow Things ?
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1377
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I've done pig and cow things, too. And used 13 19xx. Nothing as exotic as a sea lion scale, but "bovine" and "swine" containment apparatus.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
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Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 1237
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 04:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Lynn, I had a consulting client for a while that specialized in zoos. they had the coolest stuff on their projects....real rocks, fake rocks, fake seaweed; prematurely weathered buildings (to look like ruins for the penguins); scales to haul critters out of the water; feeding troughs for giraffes, 6" thick glazing plastic to enlose underwater viewing areas... I loved it. plus those questions: how do you weigh a sea lion? where does a tiger like to sleep? what type of commercial kitchen do you need to fix food for frogs? how strong does a fence have to be to hold in an angry elephant? (that almost sounds like the set up to a joke..)
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1381
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 05:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Anne, that's fascinating. The closest I can get to that (and it's not very close) was before I started writing specs. I was a designer for a company that manufactured fake rock and created zoo exhibits, museum exhibits, and miniature golf courses (the ones with rocks and waterfalls, not windmills). They also did atria in hotels, sometimes complete with ducks in ponds. (One miniature golf course was in Estes Park, CO; I think it's still there)
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 412
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 05:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I've worked on several projects at the National Zoo in Washington, as a project architect and as a specifier.

Things liked gunited rocks were done by the Zoo staff. We dealt more with architectural issues, like 1-1/4" thick laminated glass for the gorillas and orangutans. In the 30+ years since the Great Ape House was completed, the glass has remained intact from animal impacts--but during design, we received a 12" square sample of the glass that arrived broken--by the post office. The office kept for years, a letter from Dow Corning stating that their silicone glazing sealant would not be affected by gorilla urine.

Food? The Reptile House had bags of frozen mice, for the snakes. And the Small Mammals Building had Purina Monkey Chow--Scout's honor.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1382
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 09:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

One of the projects the firm did (the fake rock one) was for a museum that wanted to duplicate a glacial cave for an exhibit. The firm sent a team to the actual cave and created latex molds that were used to form the gunite exhibit cave.

They also did the lion exhibit at the Milwaukee County zoo, creating a very real-looking wilderness area - caves, rocks for climbing, pools, etc. In the orangutan exhibits, even the trees were gunite; orangutans are strong enough to destroy a real tree easily.

It's a different part of the built environment to work in. Did you know there's artificial thatch for roofs?
Phil Kabza
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Username: phil_kabza

Post Number: 498
Registered: 12-2002


Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 05:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Y'all have had way too much fun. My first design project (design-build actually, as I was designer, GC, carpentry contractor, and day laborer) was a two-stall horse barn, complete with cupola and cross-buck doors. Learned to not use PTW around creatures, and learned to point the stall doors to the southeast so the stalls would warm up on cold mornings and protect from prevailing westerly winds.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 1238
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Friday, January 27, 2012 - 04:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

you know, I always wondered how the Swiss Family Robinson Tree House passed fire code -- must be the artificial thatch.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1383
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 09:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Disney would have insisted on it...
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 149
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 01:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

News Flash: Yo Yo Ma is conducting the Goat Rodeo Sessions tonight, to be broadcast from Boston to a theater near you! See http://www.yo-yoma.com/news/goat-rodeo-sessions for more info.

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