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David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1185
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 12:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

What MasterFormat section number should I use for the project directory? The project directory is the page(s) listing all the consultants and contact information.
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 491
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We use 00-0101, which is for "project name and other general information".
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Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 02:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Don't forget to list the specifier! :-)

Not an answer to OP question, but is list on cover/title sheet of drawings? If so, redundant to also have in project manual?
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: geverding

Post Number: 592
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 02:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

UG- I don't think it's redundant to have such lists on both drawing set and project manual. It is convenient to have broad general information contained in each set of documents. For example, I always put full tables of contents in each of the project manual volumes instead of just the contents for that volume. It answers the question "if not found here, then where?"
George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA
Ingersoll Rand Security Technologies
St. Louis, MO
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP
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Username: redseca2

Post Number: 277
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 03:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The Directory was always in the DIV 1 "Summary" Section when I took over here and I haven't seen a need to change that. Clients that provide their own front ends often make it a stand alone Section.

We also put a full TOC in each volume.

We often have page sized signage schedules and detail sheets from a signage consultant that easily become a specification volume of their own. For those I include 10 14 00 - Signage both in DIV 10 and at the front of the schedule/detail volume for the convenience factor.
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 492
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 04:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Full table of contents in each volume, yes! List of drawings in project manual, no!

If you include a list of drawings in the project manual, do you also include a project manual table of contents on the drawings?
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: geverding

Post Number: 594
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 04:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree, Sheldon. I was referring to a project directory listing consultants,etc. Not to the Drawing List in the Project Manual.
George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA
Ingersoll Rand Security Technologies
St. Louis, MO
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1254
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 04:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Agreed, Sheldon. And if by "directory" you mean contact information for the team (Owner, consultants, architect, etc.,), we typically place that information on the cover sheet (drawings) and PM cover (Project Manual). Sometimes it's also listed in the Summary section.

If that's not what you mean, than I'm confused. (not a usual state for me, but also not uncommon).
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: geverding

Post Number: 596
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 04:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

...although on second thought, I remember a few government projects that required a list of drawings in the Project Manual in Division 00 - HUD? State of MO? In that case you'd do it, but otherwise, no.
George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA
Ingersoll Rand Security Technologies
St. Louis, MO
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1257
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 04:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

VA requires it, too, - or did anyway. I always thought it dumb because obviously you won't find those items in the PM. But, "what the Owner wants, the Owner gets" - to paraphrase from the song (sorry Lola)
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1191
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Some architects are very against publishing a project directory in the project manual of names of the architect's consultants. These architects are very concerned that a contractor or subcontractor will go around the architect and contact an architectural consultant directly.

I can see their concern but don't share their belief. I believe that the project directory is helpful for everyone as a reference to who is (was) working on the project.
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP
Senior Member
Username: redseca2

Post Number: 278
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 01:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We spend most of our time on big projects with very long schedules. We are still closing out a hospital project with permit submittal drawings and specs dated December 2002.

I find it incredibly important to embed as much peripheral project information (like the Project Directory) into the documents as possible. Loose hardcopies and project files on servers can and do go missing, or become very inscrutable if the entire team changes out over time.

That said, per David's comment above, you need to carefully edit the information so that Joe the Plumber is not calling your IT manager on his private cell # at 6 AM.
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1549
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2016 - 12:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

CSI Masterformat labels 000101 as the Project Title Page, the Architect is preparing that page and wants a different number for the Project Directory, therefore I am proposing 000103 -yeas or neas?
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: specman

Post Number: 1377
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Monday, January 11, 2016 - 01:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Works for me. You may want to suggest that to the MF Maintenance Task Team.
Ron Geren, FCSI, AIA, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
www.specsandcodes.com

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