HUD's Specification Standards

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Author Message Tom Gilmore, AIA, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: tgilmore Post Number: 23 Registered: 04-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:45 pm:    HUD's Multifamily Accelerated Processing Guide Appendix 5, dated 03/15/2002 includes at 5I R: Contract specifications: Use 16 basic divisions of the Masterformat Construction Specifications Institute. I'd greatly appreciate anyone who has successfully let HUD to MF 2004 or 2010 sharing their experience as a precedent. In addition, on the following page, R.4.b.(2) reads “Pages numbered consecutively”, and I want to ensure they don't expect the entire Project Manual to be page numbered in one sequence. Again, I’d welcome a precedent that supports PageFormat’s ## ## ##-# page numbers. I also note a few pages later their Specification Guide appears to be based on MF88. Robin E. Snyder Senior Member Username: robin Post Number: 328 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 11:34 am:    Tim - have not been successful in getting them to accept the new format. However, some of the HUD reviewers waive the consecutive numbering - you should ask your HUD contact. If they do require it, then, yes, the intent is that the entire project manual is numbered as "page 1 of 500, page 2 of 500 etc.". It needs to include the AIA 201 (check and see if they want 2007) and the HUD forms in the numbering. It is a real pain. Phil Kabza Senior Member Username: phil_kabza Post Number: 454 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 04:17 pm:    Recently completed a HUD specification set in which MF04 was accepted. The HUD reviewers were apparently also enlightened enough to overlook the ludicrous page numbering requirement. Don't assume this will be the case on your project. We did hear of a case where an exasperated architect made all parties sit and watch at the mortgage closing while he hand numbered a record project manual at the insistence of a HUD mortgage closing bureacrat. Quite a bit of effort went into incorporating the HUD-specific material certifications and manufacturer qualifications in those sections where they applied. Many of these documents reference out of date and inadequate standards better managed by current ASTM standards, but HUD apparently will be HUD. Robin E. Snyder Senior Member Username: robin Post Number: 329 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 04:21 pm:    See, I have never had success with getting them to accept MRO4, but I haven't incorporated any HUD-specific material certifications/qualifications and never had anyone tell me I had to. What are these Phil? Tom - best to check with your reviewer and see what he/she will/won't waive. Dave Metzger Senior Member Username: davemetzger Post Number: 368 Registered: 07-2001 Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 05:36 pm:    The best HUD person ever was Paul Newman. Tom Gilmore, AIA, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: tgilmore Post Number: 24 Registered: 04-2007 Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 06:08 pm:    Thanks, Phil! Dave, I’m hoping our HUD person is a cool hand. Phil are you referring to Chapter 5 – Materials in HUD’s Multifamily Accelerated Processing Guide? Phil Kabza Senior Member Username: phil_kabza Post Number: 455 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:00 pm:    Robin: I'm referring to incorporating references in the specifications to the HUD Use of Materials Bulletins and Materials Releases in the appropriate specifications sections. This was done at the recommendation of the Lender's HUD finance consultant.