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Steve Gantner, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: sgantner

Post Number: 22
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 09:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

If anyone can help, I'm looking for the appropriate location for a draft control curtain for aircraft hangars. Fabrilok makes these, but I am stumped as to where it belongs in MF04. Looking through the book, it looks like a 10 44 00 Fire Protection Specialty, but would most likely need a new number. Or do I venture into 23 51 13 Draft Control Devices? It doesn't really fit in either location.

Thanks
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 367
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 10:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

08 33 43 Overhead Coiling Smoke Curtains??
Colin Gilboy
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Username: colin

Post Number: 239
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I set up a special section for these - 07-8600.
http://www.4specs.com/s/07/07-8600.html

I was trying to classify Smoke Guard (elevators) and decided to put it in the same area as firestopping.

MF2004 has 07-8000 as Fire and Smoke Protection
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Rich Gonser AIA CSI CCCA
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Username: gonserarch

Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The section 08 3400 Special Function Doors seems more appropriate to me.
Rich Gonser AIA CSI CCCA
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Username: gonserarch

Post Number: 22
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

PS, I was responding to the smoke door at elevators...
Steve Gantner, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: sgantner

Post Number: 23
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thank you, I wasn't really thinking door because it just hangs from the roof structure, a passive smoke barrier for large open areas.

Colins suggestion works well, and since it's on 4specs, it's as good as the MF04 book to me.
Richard Howard, AIA CSI CCS SCIP LEED-AP
Senior Member
Username: rick_howard

Post Number: 242
Registered: 07-2003


Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I would probably start with 07 87 00 "Smoke Containment Barriers" and make a level 3 for suspended fabric smoke barriers.
Rich Gonser AIA CSI CCCA
Senior Member
Username: gonserarch

Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 11:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

For your purpose 10 8223 Interior Grilles and screens appears to be on point.

"Includes
grilles and screens of wood, metal, plastic and other materials connected to permanent construction and used for a variety of purposes."
Rich Gonser AIA CSI CCCA
Senior Member
Username: gonserarch

Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

07 8700 also makes sense and may be easier to find for a contractor.
Karen L. Zaterman, CCS, LEED-AP, SCIP
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Username: kittiz

Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2005


Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 02:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sorry, I must disagree with you all. Coming from an Engineering/Transportation specifier...
I would create a new number/title under either of the groups 34 73 00 Airfield Construction or 34 77 00 Transportation Equipment.

IMHO, Divisions 34 and 35 still need more work by the Committee but these would be the closest to your needs for now.
Karen L. Zaterman, CSI, CCS, SCIP-Affil, LEED AP BD+C
Moffatt & Nichol - Long Beach, CA
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: bunzick

Post Number: 1227
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 03:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Karen, If you look at Divisions 34 and 35, they do not include any buildings, only the 'horizontal' construction elements found in transportation projects. Like a train station, airport terminal, or warehouse, a hanger is still just a building with a particular purpose. But I also think that these are definitely not Division 08 items. Probably belong in Division 10 as a specialty.

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