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David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 922
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 12:11 pm: |    |
It looks like the following is missing from MF'04.
Projector Mounts
TV Brackets and VCR Mounts |
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: specman
Post Number: 544
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 12:23 pm: | |
Why doesn't Section 27 41 23 "Audio-Video Accessories" work? |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 923
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:06 pm: | |
Because I don't write electrical specs.
Colin put them in Section 11 5270 - TV Mounts and Lift Systems, which is not an official MF'04 section but may work. |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 660
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:12 pm: | |
its a bracket. why isn't it just in finish carpentry (with the other shelving hardware); or metal fabrications or some other accessory type section. the wiring is in the wall; the stuff plugs into it, and sits on the bracket. |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 924
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:24 pm: | |
Because the bracket is not attached to any casework. The brackets are not like an under counter keyboard tray or in-desk CPU mount. These brackets are hung from the structural members and penetrate the ceiling. Sometimes the brackets are mounted to directly to the walls. |
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: specman
Post Number: 545
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:25 pm: | |
Who said that only electrical engineers can write Division 27 sections? |
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: bunzick
Post Number: 802
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:43 pm: | |
I agree. I'll write a section in any division I think is appropriate. |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 925
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:53 pm: | |
Where do you put scoreboards or electronic reader boards? |
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: specman
Post Number: 546
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 02:00 pm: | |
Scoreboards: Section 11 66 43 "Interior Scoreboards" or Section 11 68 43 "Exterior Scoreboards"
Reader Boards: Section 10 14 63 "Electronic Message Signage" |
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting
Post Number: 11
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 01:43 pm: | |
I made a category that seems logical in MF04:
11 5220 "Audio-Visual Equipment Accessories."
I have yet to use this actual section because I haven't had a project w/ more than one or two items, but have used Level 3 sections:
11 5221 "Projector Lifts"
11 5222 "Monitor Supports" (for TV brackets) |
David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: davidcombs
Post Number: 252
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 08:59 am: | |
We cover them in 11 52 23.
The '23' is derived from 27 41 23 - Audio-Video Accessories. |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 926
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 01:45 pm: | |
Sounds like a good idea. Thanks. Have you guys suggested this on www.masterformat.com? |
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