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David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 765
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

What is the new MF'04 section name and number?
Ronald L. Geren, RA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, MAI
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Username: specman

Post Number: 371
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 03:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

How about Section 10 40 00 - Safety Specialties?
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 768
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 03:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ronald,

That section includes fire extinguisher cabinets and first aid supplies. I don't believe that the section applies to an installation on the roof.

Thanks anyway for trying.
Ronald L. Geren, RA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, MAI
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Username: specman

Post Number: 372
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 03:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Those are specific sections.

However, there is no rule that you can't use the Level 2 number, or create your own Level 3 number. Those are safety specialties, are they not?

If these are part of a maintenance system, such as window washing, use Section 11 24 00 - Maintenance Equipment
Kenneth C. Crocco
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Username: kcrocco

Post Number: 69
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 04:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

11 24 23 is Window Washing Systems. Your section number and title should fall somewhere nearby
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 508
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 04:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Div. 11 looks good!

Can also be close to loading dock equipment if it has to do with loading and unloading operations [tank cars, tanker trucks, etc.]
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 621
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 08:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I made a recommendation on www.masterformat.com that this be given a new number and title. My suggestion happened to be 112429 - Facility Fall Protection. There is a number and title 416719 - Plant Fall Protection, but I felt that adding one for facilities would be good.

I urge other MasterFormat users to go to the MasterFormat web site and make recommendations when you come across ideas for improvements.
Helaine K. (Holly) Robinson CSI CCS CCCA
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Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 250
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 03:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I didn't realize we had a section on keeping hanging plants from falling!

"416719 - Plant Fall Protection"
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 772
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 06:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

So how is "Plant Fall Protection" any different from "Building Fall Protection"?

Will there be narrowscope sections of "Hospital Fall Protection", "School Fall Protection", "Big Box Store Fall Protection", etc.?
David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: davidcombs

Post Number: 188
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 06:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Plant Fall Protection will require Collin to make a Division 41 tab; Building Fall Protection (Division 11) won't.

All kidding aside, I have a project right now where we are specifying the Horizontal Cable Lifeline System (roof-top mounted) in Section 05 15 16 - Steel Wire Rope Assemblies.
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 623
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Division 41 is Material Processing and Handling Equipment. Fall protection systems for a typical office building, for example, are much more like--and related to--Div 11's "Maintenance Equipment" than they are to Div 41's "Mobile Plant Equipment." The latter includes things like trucks and rail equipment. I'd just prefer to have fall protection be an adjunct of window washing equipment.

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