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David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: david_axt
Post Number: 765 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 02:50 pm: | |
What is the new MF'04 section name and number? |
Ronald L. Geren, RA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, MAI Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 371 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 03:32 pm: | |
How about Section 10 40 00 - Safety Specialties? |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: david_axt
Post Number: 768 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 03:41 pm: | |
Ronald, That section includes fire extinguisher cabinets and first aid supplies. I don't believe that the section applies to an installation on the roof. Thanks anyway for trying. |
Ronald L. Geren, RA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, MAI Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 372 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 03:46 pm: | |
Those are specific sections. However, there is no rule that you can't use the Level 2 number, or create your own Level 3 number. Those are safety specialties, are they not? If these are part of a maintenance system, such as window washing, use Section 11 24 00 - Maintenance Equipment |
Kenneth C. Crocco Senior Member Username: kcrocco
Post Number: 69 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 04:00 pm: | |
11 24 23 is Window Washing Systems. Your section number and title should fall somewhere nearby |
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing
Post Number: 508 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 04:10 pm: | |
Div. 11 looks good! Can also be close to loading dock equipment if it has to do with loading and unloading operations [tank cars, tanker trucks, etc.] |
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: bunzick
Post Number: 621 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 08:27 am: | |
I made a recommendation on www.masterformat.com that this be given a new number and title. My suggestion happened to be 112429 - Facility Fall Protection. There is a number and title 416719 - Plant Fall Protection, but I felt that adding one for facilities would be good. I urge other MasterFormat users to go to the MasterFormat web site and make recommendations when you come across ideas for improvements. |
Helaine K. (Holly) Robinson CSI CCS CCCA Senior Member Username: hollyrob
Post Number: 250 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 03:04 pm: | |
I didn't realize we had a section on keeping hanging plants from falling! "416719 - Plant Fall Protection" |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: david_axt
Post Number: 772 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 06:16 pm: | |
So how is "Plant Fall Protection" any different from "Building Fall Protection"? Will there be narrowscope sections of "Hospital Fall Protection", "School Fall Protection", "Big Box Store Fall Protection", etc.? |
David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: davidcombs
Post Number: 188 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 06:41 pm: | |
Plant Fall Protection will require Collin to make a Division 41 tab; Building Fall Protection (Division 11) won't. All kidding aside, I have a project right now where we are specifying the Horizontal Cable Lifeline System (roof-top mounted) in Section 05 15 16 - Steel Wire Rope Assemblies. |
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: bunzick
Post Number: 623 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:32 am: | |
Division 41 is Material Processing and Handling Equipment. Fall protection systems for a typical office building, for example, are much more like--and related to--Div 11's "Maintenance Equipment" than they are to Div 41's "Mobile Plant Equipment." The latter includes things like trucks and rail equipment. I'd just prefer to have fall protection be an adjunct of window washing equipment. |