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Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: michael_chusid
Post Number: 500 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 21, 2019 - 03:58 pm: | |
I have been told I need to pass an OSHA approved safety class in order to visit job sites on which my clients are active. If you have experience with jobsite safety training programs, please let me know what worked or didn't work for you. Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937 www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru |
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick
Post Number: 1785 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 21, 2019 - 04:24 pm: | |
I have done it a couple times. Both were conducted by the safety officer for the contractors who were doing the project in question. Since there were a number of people in the office that needed to do this, they conducted the training at our office (I was working for the architect in these cases). The course was quite simple, and in my view, largely common sense. I can't remember if you're an independent specifier, but I would suggest asking one of your architecture clients, or a contractor working on one of your projects, if you can attend one of their programs. |
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: jsandoz
Post Number: 274 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, June 24, 2019 - 09:15 am: | |
John is correct, these classes are largely common sense but for someone who has had little or no exposure to a job site they can be very valuable. Michael, I'm sure it is just a formality in your case, as it was in mine, but it never hurts to be reminded of safety issues. I see contractors becoming more diligent about safety in the work place. The ethical reasons should be obvious but there are practical reasons as well. Injuries on the job are always expensive but with the tightening labor market it can be especially onerous when people the contractor is depending on to accomplish work are unable to do that work. |
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick
Post Number: 1788 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 02:05 pm: | |
Taking the class is also required in many cases, I believe by OSHA. You simple are not allowed on the site without the training without violating OSHA regulations, which the contractor is responsible to enforce. There could very likely be insurance implications, too, for your own employer as well as the contractor. |
Mark Gilligan SE, Senior Member Username: mark_gilligan
Post Number: 900 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 01:47 am: | |
What is the basis for this requirement. Is it required by OSHA and if so what is the OSHA regulation? Is there a generic class and certification or do you have to repeat this for each project? |
Dewayne Dean Senior Member Username: ddean
Post Number: 199 Registered: 02-2016
| Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 10:33 am: | |
Each contractor has to implement a safety program to comply with OSHA. Part of the program is to train all people on the job site. In case of an OSHA audit, the contractor has to produce records showing compliance otherwise fines involving $$$ are imposed. If a person who has not been trained is injured on the job, then the fines increase $$$$$$$ |
Mark Gilligan SE, Senior Member Username: mark_gilligan
Post Number: 901 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 03:13 pm: | |
Engineers and inspectors who regularly visit construction sites for a wide variety of projects could find themselves with considerable overhead if they had to undergo training for each project. On some projects this could double the fee to perform the work. Thus it would be useful to understand what OSHA rule that is driving these requirements. Architects and Engineers should have provisions in their contracts that would allow them to be reimbursed for contractor imposed requirements. |
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