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Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Post Number: 373
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 08:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

You might be a specifier if...

You go shopping for a new home and can remember the brand of windows, roof flashing details, whether electrical outlets have GFCI, and the door hardware finish...

But you don't remember quantity of bedrooms or baths.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 724
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 09:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Michael:

So, what's your point?
Louis Medcalf, FCSI, CCS
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Username: louis_medcalf

Post Number: 97
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2018 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

When my first-born was about 12 in the 1980s, at dinner I asked him to cut me a slice of bread from a loaf backed by my wife. I told him to cut it about the thickness of his forefinger (biggish lad). He picked up the knife and said, "Dad, you don't have to be so specific."
I replied, "Son, specifications are just a task for most architects, but for me it's a way of life."
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
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Username: redseca2

Post Number: 638
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Monday, March 05, 2018 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Michael,

That is why we use checklists, so that we do not leave something out.

I, licensed Architect, once did a casual inspection of a condo, with a friend, also an Architect, who was thinking of buying it. We did not use a checklist. While admiring the hardwood floors, the view, the bathroom tile, we failed to notice that there was no heating system what-so-ever. This older San Francisco condominium building once had radiator steam heat. But that had gone away ages ago and the residents provided their own plug-in heaters.

My friend realized this while in escrow, but went ahead with the purchase any way. The hardwood floors, the view, the bathroom tile....
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 374
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Monday, March 05, 2018 - 02:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David: Point is... I love being a specifier even if it has skewed my perceptions.

Louis: Did you want the thickness measured at the base of the finger or the tip? Measured against the gripping surface of the finger or the side of the finger?

Steven: Thanks for the reminder... We have made an offer to purchase the house... and I do not remember seeing a furnace.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 2141
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Monday, March 05, 2018 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Louis, so glad your wife backed the bread. I find it more satisfying to bake mine. (grin)
David J. Wyatt, CDT
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Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt

Post Number: 229
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 - 08:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My dad was an architect and specifier. When other kids got Scooby-Doo and Batman 3-ring binders for school, I got Schlage and Medusa Cement binders he brought home from the office.

He also brought home what he called "scratch paper" for us to draw on. It was old specs printed on only one side of the pages. A couple of years ago, I found in his house some of my homework from the third grade that I had turned in on this so-called scratch paper. Each page was backed by concrete specs, hand-typed, using the old alpha-numeric numbering system (3A-3B-3C).

I see now there was no escaping this fate.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 1155
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 - 09:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David, I thought I was the only one. My dad was an architect who used to bring home 'blueprints' that I drew on. One day when I was about 6 or 7 I turned some over and found all this 'stuff' on the 'back' and asked my dad about it. He patiently showed me what everything was and how to maneuver through the set. An hour or so later I could read a set of Drawings. I didn't think about it again until I was I college and started down this curious path.

Was I doomed from the start?
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 725
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Michael:

Of COURSE a specifier would behave as you note; my (snarky) point was, how else would they behave?

Coincidentally, my wife and are buying a condo, and I did check out the roofing, and the age of the hot water heater and heat pump, and GFCI outlets.
David J. Wyatt, CDT
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Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt

Post Number: 230
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 - 10:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ken,

Doom might be a little harsh. Let's call it fate. Your story confirms that the Fates are as much at work these days as they were in the times of Aeschylus.
Ron Beard CCS
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Username: rm_beard_ccs

Post Number: 442
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 - 03:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I remember writing my first spex "...using the old alpha-numeric numbering system (3A-3B-3C)." ...well, now dimly anyway.

My kids saw how hard it was for me get timely receivables and they stayed away from specification consulting.
"Fast is good, but accurate is better."
.............Wyatt Earp

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