4specs.com    4specs.com Home Page

What to call a not-a-balustrade or no... Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

4specs Discussion Forum » Archive Coffee Pot and Water Cooler #2 » What to call a not-a-balustrade or not-a-railing « Previous Next »

Author Message
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 146
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 03:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

A balustrade is made of balusters and a railing is made of rails. What is the appropriate term for the a device that is a planar construction without banisters or railings that marks the outside edge of balconies and stairs? If it was on a roof or terrace, I would call it a parapet; if at grade I would call it a fence. But these terms do not feel right when describing the edge of walkways around an atrium or balconies protruding beyond the face face of a building.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Dave Metzger
Senior Member
Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 640
Registered: 07-2001


Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 04:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

A guardrail. Doesn't matter whether it is made of linear (vertical and horizontal) elements, or is a solid planar construction such as tempered glass.

And incidentally, a balustrade is made of balusters and also a top horizontal railing.
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2

Post Number: 543
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 06:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree with David. All building codes will require a guardrail at locations like you describe. Let the building code in force handle providing the definition of a guardrail.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 147
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 12:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

"Guardrail" describes a device in terms of a particular function. My need, however, is to describe an architectural element. What word would be best in this sentence, or example?

"Only the Pope's head and shoulders were visible above the ________ as he gave the Easter Blessing from the balcony on St. Peter's Square."

Or, Romeo saying, "What light from above yonder ____________ breaks," as he watches Juliet leaning over the edge of her balcony?.

Or, "The hooligans hid behind the balcony _________ and tossed water balloons onto pedestrians below."

Any ideas?
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Dave Metzger
Senior Member
Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 641
Registered: 07-2001


Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 02:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Michael:

If this is for a professional/technical audience, I'd use the technical term, ie "guardrail". If it's for a general audience, I'd use "railing".

As Romeo might have said, "Forsooth, keepeth it simple, thou goose".
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 148
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 05:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

-- parapet --

I am so used to the use of this term with reference to roofs that I was blinded to its application to balconies as well. Here is how one dictionary describes it:

"A low protective wall or railing along the edge of a raised structure such as a roof or balcony."
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 149
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 05:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

With apologies to the Bard:

And as imagination bodies forth
The forms of things unknown, the specifier
Turns them to shapes and gives to airy nothing
A local habitation and a name.

– William Shakespeare (from A Midsummer Night’s Dream)
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Robert E. Woodburn, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: bob_woodburn

Post Number: 188
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 05:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

(I composed this before seeing the two posts above...) If it's of solid, opaque construction like a wall (concrete, brick, plaster, wood etc., but perhaps not metal or glass), I'd be tempted to call it a parapet. To me, the terms rail, railing and guardrail imply something at least part of which can be grasped, that one can wrap one's hand around, not just a safety barrier, though that may be the intent of the code definition. It sounds as if what you describe may be more like a short wall. One might call it a "stub wall" or "pony wall"---technical (and perhaps regional) slang---but "parapet" fits, and is a readily understandable common term. Parapets are short walls cantilevered from below, usually to provide safety. They don't necessarily need to be around a roof or atrium.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 1411
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2016 - 03:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

although... if the intent is for protection of the occupant, and the height is consistent with the requirements of the code for a guardrail, and it is engineered to take the loading of a guardrail, I would just call it a guardrail.

Topics | Last Day | Last Week | Tree View | Search | Help/Instructions | Program Credits Administration