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David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1458
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 - 01:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Yesterday, I received a check from my client. The check was postmarked November 5, 2015. It took that piece of mail 3 months to go about 11 miles!

Do any of you independent consultants have electronic bank transfer set up with your clients?

BTW, my client did cut me a new check after I kept sending him reminder invoices. Now I know why he was so late to pay me!
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Colin Gilboy
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Username: colin

Post Number: 421
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 - 01:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I would recommend you look at Intuit (yes Quicken) Payment Network. Checking to checking account is a 50 cent charge and takes 2 days.
https://ipn.intuit.com/
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 - 03:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David,
Get real! Your client entered in it's books that your fee was "paid" on Nov 5, but he didn't physically mail the check until last week. It's called "float"! In the IRS's eyes, you've constructively received payment in 2015, so you need to report income on 2015 tax returns; yeah, I know it sucks, but that's the ways the taxman cometh...to get your money!
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1459
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 - 05:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Anon,

I had already been paid by the client back in December. When I opened the letter I was puzzled why the client was sending me another check. I always scan checks before depositing them in the bank. The scanned check had a later date and later check number. My client was not trying to cheat me. Somehow the check got lost in the mail.

As to the IRS, it depends on whether a person uses the "cash method" or "accrual" method. I use the cash method which means income is counted when I receive it.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Ron Beard CCS
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Username: rm_beard_ccs

Post Number: 433
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 07:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David:
But if you get a Form 1099 from him for that year, you better acknowledge it in that year even if you didn't receive it until the next year. Yes, you can fight it (because you are right if you are on a cash basis but it isn't worth the effort).
"Fast is good, but accurate is better."
.............Wyatt Earp
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1461
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2016 - 01:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ron,

Good point. Yes I did get a 1099 from my client for the year 2015. The 1099 form came a few days before the "second" check. Thus another reason why I was puzzled why my client was paying me twice.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1499
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2016 - 07:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Well it happened again. Another local client sent me a check two weeks ago that never arrived. They are writing a new check and mailing it to me.

I wonder if I should have them pay for tracking or delivery confirmation or something.

Am I the only one experiencing this issue?
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Dewayne Dean
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Username: ddean

Post Number: 77
Registered: 02-2016


Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2016 - 07:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Seems strange. Do you have reason to suspect the client or the delivery service?
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 191
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2016 - 07:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have used terms such as 5% off if paid in 5 days. 2% in 10 days.

I offer to come pick up checks. Gives me a chance to say hello to client.

I used to be able to take credit cards.

Best of all, I now have retainer accounts that pay me at beginning of month.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru 818-219-4937
J. Peter Jordan
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Username: jpjordan

Post Number: 907
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 09:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I had a client who sent two checks that I never received. This was a good client whom I trust and continue to do business with. Both checks were deposited at a mail box on USPS property so I have some reason to believe that the checks were mislaid or stolen. I wound up collecting that check in person.
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1501
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Seems I am not the only one with mail issues. There is another specification consultant in town who also had a problem recently of not receiving a check.

I did, however, notice that my mail carrier now delivers the mail from his new Mercedes Benz while he wears a very nice Armani suit. ;-)
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Ron Beard CCS
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Username: rm_beard_ccs

Post Number: 435
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Friday, August 12, 2016 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Be thankful for your late payments.
It's the no payment at all that pisses me off the most.
"Fast is good, but accurate is better."
.............Wyatt Earp
David J. Wyatt, CDT
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Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt

Post Number: 151
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Friday, August 12, 2016 - 01:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

It hurts bad when you finally receive the long-awaited check and it isn't signed.
Once I drove thirty miles to pick up a promised and much-needed check and the guy wasn't there. I had to use all the loose change under my car seats for gas to get back.
Now that I am full-time employed by a firm, I thank my boss when I get paid, which is on time, every time.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 1006
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Friday, August 12, 2016 - 03:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David Axt, I don't know how your fees are structured but I'm impressed if your postal carrier can pull all that off one check. Maybe you need to bill more often.

Back when I was consulting I had a client that was perpetually bad at paying. Once he wrote me a check from an account that had been closed. I found that out when I went to his bank (I had already learned not to just deposit it in my bank). I had to talk with the bank manager, asking whether the amount in question didn't make passing bad checks a felony. The bank manager was nice, called the client, asked me to wait, and 15 minutes later I had a new check in my hand that I cashed immediately. Heck of a way to earn a living.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1516
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 02:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

And yet it happened again. One of my clients told me that their accounting software has not been working for 11 days and counting. I am driving down to the client to pick up a handwritten check.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 655
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 02:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David - do you ask for a retainer?
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1517
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 01:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Robin,
It is unusual that I have had issues with three different architectural firms. I sure hope that the handwritten check arrives today. I have a sneaking suspicion that someone might be stealing my mail. If so I sure wish they would steal (and pay) my bills!

Do the rest of the independent specifiers ask for a retainer?
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 219
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 01:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

1/3 on notice to proceed
1/3 on first draft
balance on completion
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru 818-219-4937
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 657
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 02:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

i didn't realize it was 3 different clients. Yes, i ask for a 20-30% retainer on new/slow paying clients
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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 11:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

And what do you do if new clients balk? Or better yet, what if clients are slow to pay for anything...whether retainers, invoices for deliverables, etc.? Not do/start the work? Delaying start of work then impinges on your meeting their deadline?
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 658
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have never had a new client protest the retainer. If i did, i wouldn't work with them. It is business and not an unreasonable requirement. I have had to delay issue of specifications on a couple of occasions due to severely delayed payment. If they aren't paying, then they are not holding up their end of the contract, so their deadline becomes irrelevant. Usually, a phone call to discuss can resolve everything, but in the unusual circumstances where the payment just isn't coming...neither are my specifications.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
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Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 1415
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Monday, October 31, 2016 - 08:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David: When I consulted, I also had a post office box because mail would get delivered there at 10 am, and it would be closer to 5 pm at my house on Queen Anne. it was a small price to pay, but it also reduced the number of places mail could get lost. you might think of that as an option.
George A. Everding, FCSI, CCS, CCCA, AIA
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Username: geverding

Post Number: 833
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 01:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Wait a minute? Anne, you lived on Queen Anne Street? Self-named, or just a delicious coincidence?
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 663
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 01:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

What else would be expected for the Queen of Specifications?

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