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Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1548
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2016 - 08:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The Architect has sent us a Directory of Consultants and asked that we give it a section number for placement in the Project Manual. I assume this would go in Division 0, under "Available Project Information", Document 000310. Again this is a private sector project.
Guest (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2016 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

For those few, usually gov't projects, I've made it follow cover/title page and ID as 00 01 03 - Project Directory. It does not seem to me that 0031xx location is consistent with other CSI's MasterFormat description/titles.
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 975
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Monday, January 11, 2016 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree with guest though i would put it after Certification and Seals pages but before the Table of Contents.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1449
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Monday, January 11, 2016 - 01:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I made a suggestion to the MasterFormat team a few months ago. Here is their response:

Dear David Axt,

Thank you for taking the time to submit MasterFormat revision proposal 2239, 00 00 03 Project Directory, submitted 4/14/2015.

Having carefully reviewed the substance of your proposal, the MasterFormat Maintenance Task Team found its subject matter to be an appropriate addition to MasterFormat.

The following number and title has been added in MasterFormat as a result of your proposal:

00 01 03 Project Directory

This change is not yet reflected on the MasterFormat website. The website and printed manual will be updated to reflect this change in January 2016.

Thank you for your assistance, and your interest in, and use of, MasterFormat.


Sincerely,
Rob Holson, CDT
Manager, Technical Services
CSI
110 South Union St.
Suite 100
Alexandria, VA 22314
(800) 689-2900 x4735
703-706-4735 - Direct
703-684-0465 - Fax
rholson@csinet.org
www.csinet.org
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant/Web Publisher
www.localproductreps.com
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 107
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Monday, January 11, 2016 - 01:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Here are other new MF section:
09 78 19 Cementitious Interior Wall Paneling
09 78 23 Phenolic Interior Wall Paneling
13 19 19 Animal Washing Tubs
26 01 40.13 Operation and Maintenance of Lightning Protection Systems
32 18 23.63 Equestrian Surfacing
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1550
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2016 - 04:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David the 000103 section number I came up with was based on common sense, I am glad to see its a real number now that it has been adopted by Technical Services. Technical Services must be the Fairy Godmother of CSI, I always knew she existed, making sure Masterformat is not violated, I for one will sleep better tonight.

If only there was a fairy godmother for specifiers, my clients have beaten me up today, fighting back is not ethical in this case, besides I'd like to be paid someday.
David J. Wyatt, CDT
Senior Member
Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt

Post Number: 129
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 08:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hang in there, Jerome. Samuel Johnson said, "No man but a blockhead ever wrote... except for money."
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1551
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 09:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David, someday you will have to explain that quote to me, lack of sleep and 50 degree temps (freezing for us Floridians w/o heat) is interfering with my brain this morning.

I guess that if its in the 50's here it must be a lot colder up north, you'all stay warm now.
Sheldon Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 892
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 12:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

No offense, but sometimes I think people overthink MasterFormat.

00-0101 - Project Title Page. Includes project name and other general information.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has used this page to list the project team.
Another (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 01:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I'm with Sheldon I think, we are probably over thinking this.

I'll usually let the drawings name all the project participants. If for some reason I did want to list them in the specifications and duplicate that information, I'd follow the lead that MasterSpec has and list it all under the article "Project Information" in 01 1000 - Summary.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 108
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 02:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Why should names of architect's sub-consultants be listed in bidding and construction documents at all when, presumably, all correspondence is to be filtered through the architect?
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Sheldon Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 893
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 12:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I think of the title page as a project sign; it acknowledges the contributions of the consultants. Everyone wants a little publicity!

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