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Brian Payne
Senior Member
Username: brian_payne
Post Number: 161
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 03:43 pm: |    |
So I finally got called out on this by the AHJ. You need to have a work table in your Fire Command Center for highrises. Anyone have a favorite product? |
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2
Post Number: 653
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 07:22 pm: | |
Sorry, couldn't help it. It does seem to be all Class A fire-resistive materials.
https://www.knoll.com/product/saarinen-oval-dining-table-78 |
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid
Post Number: 411
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 08:41 pm: | |
so nice to see, specifiers have a sense of humor.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru |
Brian Payne
Senior Member
Username: brian_payne
Post Number: 162
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 08:55 pm: | |
Agreed. I was hoping I would get some less than helpful suggestions!
I do think it’s funny the code goes to the trouble of requiring a table, but gives no other requirements for it. |
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: specman
Post Number: 1511
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 09:05 pm: | |
I suggest using millwork and making it permanent. The last thing the fire department wants when they open the door to the FCC is to find the required table missing ("Oh, we used it for the company party last month; I guess we forgot to return it").
Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 1917
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 09:52 pm: | |
Michael, you have to have a sense of humor in this business...but you are all assuming Steven is joking? Ron, also known as the SpecMaster, I can think of many other uses for that table, but it is late and I am tired, to be really sharp and witty I need more sleep. |
David J. Wyatt, CDT
Senior Member
Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt
Post Number: 262
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 09:22 am: | |
9:52 p.m. isn't late for our SFL correspondent. Jerome, we have seen many posts from you that were done in the wee hours! |
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 1918
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 09:56 am: | |
Actually David I have yet to retire for the evening, but I shall do so shortly, when the demand is there, so am I. |
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2
Post Number: 654
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 11:52 am: | |
If the record drawings are 30 x 42-inches, I would allow for a table top that is 42-inches by 96-inches. that would allow a plan set to be opened fully and provide 6-inches clear on all sides for the all important big gulp coffees.
It doesn't need to be fancy. Perhaps some all metal "saw horses" from a catalog like Grainger (allow 3) supporting a 1-inch piece of plywood - Or the Saarinen. |
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid
Post Number: 413
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 05:49 pm: | |
I like Steven's thinking.
Some of the codes I looked at require the room to be at least 8 ft wide x 8 ft. The sheet of plywood fits nicely between the walls and can be supported from the wall with a brace across the front edge.
Is it really necessary to have 6" at the front and back of the table. I would make the table 36" from front to back. This gives the fire dept more room to move around and for equipment. It also makes it easier to reach a shelf or equipment mounted on back wall.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru |
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