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Author Message Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1895 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 11:51 am:    David Axt, where are you, you sir are the Chainlink God, one of my clients wants to know if he can enclose a parking garage with a tight mesh chainlink or if aluminum screen within aluminum frame would be a better solution? The Owner does not like the look of chainlink, but perforated metal is too expensive. Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 874 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 12:04 pm:    Jerome, Owner does not like the diamond pattern? The finish? Have you considered PVC clad chain link? Have you considered powder coated welded wire mesh? Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: nwoods Post Number: 741 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 12:22 pm:    David, have you ever seen the San Jose Airport parking garage? The entire garage is wrapped in what looks to be a galvanized chain link, and then decorated with large "Othello" gameboard chips, to create an amazing artistic tapestry. https://tinyurl.com/y93fnjsz Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: nwoods Post Number: 742 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 12:24 pm:    Here is a detail shot of how it was done: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/87/49/54/8749544f728227aa81ad77134f2a157b.jpg Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1898 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 12:59 pm:    Wayne, I have not looked at powder coated welded wire mesh, thanks for that suggestion. This is in an upscale neighborhood, it is a retail building, first floor is retail, the second floor is a mix of retail and lifestyle (fitness center), and the roof is parking. The chainlink is proposed to "conceal" the parking from view. David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1688 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 05:21 pm:    Jerome, who died and made me the chain link expert?! I agree with Wayne about PVC coated chain link. I recently saw really tight weave "mini mesh" 3/8 inch to 1 inch openings) and black PVC coated. It looked very nice and is quite high security because it is hard to climb. It also did somewhat obscure the view. Nathan, I have seen pictures of the San Jose Airport. That is a genius idea and very beautiful! mini weave.html (0.5 k) David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1689 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 05:25 pm:    The Chain Link Fence Manufacturers Institute has good information. https://chainlinkinfo.org/ David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1900 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 05:34 pm:    Actually in Yiddish you would be the Chain Link Maven. Perhaps that comment will bring Dave Metzger out of retirement for a response? So where do I find mini weave chain link? Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1901 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 05:41 pm:    Actually I may have been wrong, perhaps it is David Wyatt who is the chain link Maven, calling all Davids who are Chain Link Mavens? Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: michael_chusid Post Number: 401 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 05:48 pm:    Parking garage in Santa Monica CA uses chain link to drape exterior. http://friendsofsdarch.photoshelter.com/image/I0000AY_Q7wnHQQQ Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937 www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1902 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 05:56 pm:    yes indeed it was David Wyatt, he is the Chain Link Maven http://discus.4specs.com/discus/messages/23/8335.html My apologies David Axt. Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1903 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 06:00 pm:    For some reason I felt like a song after this crazy day, I think We're Alone Now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkMFLUXTEwM this is what lack of sleeps does. Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1904 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 06:07 pm:    Yesterday I had a knock down drag out fight with a CM who made the mistake of criticizing my specs, his comments were bazzar, it was obvious he had no idea how to write specs, he called me a few inappropriate names, and all through the day I was thinking "children behave". What better way to end the day with a little Tommy James & the Shondelles. Oh if only I was done for the day. Spec deadline for Friday 6pm, it will be a long night. guest (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Friday, June 22, 2018 - 10:34 am:    How about tensioned stainless steel mesh..ala Cambridge or GKD? Yeah...expensive, but looks nice. Used on muni police parking structure upper levels with first floor commercial/retail in downtown area. David J. Wyatt, CDT Senior Member Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt Post Number: 258 Registered: 03-2011 Posted on Friday, June 22, 2018 - 02:20 pm:    Jerome: Here is a source for mini-mesh, but I think it will be almost as expensive as perforated metal, one reason being that it is difficult to handle in the field. I hope this helps. http://chainlinkfencefabric.com/mini-mesh-chain-link-fabric.html David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1690 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Friday, June 22, 2018 - 09:20 pm:    If David Wyatt is the "chain link maven" what does that make me? The "chain link schlub"? That's mashugana! How about using a green wall fence (green screen)? It would block privacy, look nice and be good for the environment. David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 1905 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Friday, June 22, 2018 - 11:54 pm:    WHEN i HAVE FREE TIME, HAH, I WILL CHECK OUT YOUR PAST POSTS MR AXT AND SEE WHAT KIND OF MAVEN YOU ARE. THIS PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO MEET GREEN BUILDING CRITERIA, I am not that knowledgeable about Green building, in this case it is not LEED, its FGBC, but I am pretty sure a fence does not provide the points they need, besides Green Screen is expensive.