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David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 1670
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 07:22 pm: |    |
Is anyone familiar with Shaw LokDots for carpet installation?
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC |
Jeffrey Potter
Member
Username: jpotter
Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2017
| | Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 10:19 am: | |
With that installation, they say you do not have to worry about moisture with the slab. It can handle 99% RH. Therefore no need for testing the slab and no need for the vapor control systems. From what I have heard, there is quite a lot of carpet manufacturer's that have something similar to the LokDots. I haven't heard of any issues yet. |
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 1671
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 01:11 pm: | |
Jeffrey,
Can you please give me comparable products from other carpet manufacturers?
The situation I am up against is excessive moisture in slabs that don't allow carpet to be installed the conventional way.
I had a situation on a previous project where Mannington Carpet got the low bid, then come time to install the carpet they said the slab was too wet and the owner had to pay $86,000 extra for moisture mitigation system. Shaw Carpet told us that they could have installed the carpet down on a slab with the high moisture content that Mannington refused to install over.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC |
Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap
Senior Member
Username: lgoodrob
Post Number: 347
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 02:26 pm: | |
David,
These are the three products we list in our specifications.
a. InterfaceFLOR; TacTiles.
b. Shaw; LokDots Adhesive.
c. Tandus Centiva; TandusTape+
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Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting
Post Number: 256
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 03:01 pm: | |
The dry adhesive systems have their own limitations, so beware before specifying these. Some institutions have had experience w/ carpet tiles not remaining adhered and now only permit wet adhesive installation. As I understand it, they are particularly vulnerable to edge curling and similar problems in high traffic areas.
When these systems were first introduced, I added TacTiles and LokDots to my office master. But in recent years they have rarely been used for projects I have worked on.
Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP
Wilson Consulting Inc
Ardmore PA |
Jeffrey Potter
Intermediate Member
Username: jpotter
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2017
| | Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 04:56 pm: | |
David,
I would go with Lisa's products. We just had a mannington rep in and they have a product comparable to the LokDots. |
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2
Post Number: 645
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2018 - 07:06 pm: | |
Perhaps adhesion issues function as a canary in a coal mine. If your carpet stays adhered to a wet slab you may be creating a perfect growth environment for mold that no one will notice because there are no adhesion problems. |
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