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Brian Payne, AIA
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Username: brian_payne

Post Number: 130
Registered: 01-2014


Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 09:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Does anyone know if Vinyl Wall Covering can meet IBC 1209.2.2 requirement for "smooth, hard, nonabsorbent surface." Smooth and non absorbent seems simple for a vinyl product, but hard?
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wayne_yancey

Post Number: 855
Registered: 01-2008


Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Brian,
1209.2.2 Walls and partitions. Walls and partitions within 2 feet (610 mm) of service sinks, urinals and water closets shall have a "smooth, hard, nonabsorbent surface," to a height of not less than 4 feet (1219 mm) above the floor, and except for structural elements, the materials used in such walls shall be of a type that is not adversely affected by moisture.

"Smooth, hard, nonabsorbent surface" means ceramic or porcelain tiling, or a tile like finish such as epoxy paint, or FRP pansls from such sources as Crane Composites or Marlite.

Solid surface wall paneling, such as DuPont Corian may also be approved as smooth, hard, nonabsorbent. Solid surface panels are common in healthcare roll-in shower stalls. At least in Canada where I specified in the last century.
Brian Payne, AIA
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Username: brian_payne

Post Number: 131
Registered: 01-2014


Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I guess I'm looking for information (if it exists) that states that VWC meets that definition. Or at least the performance requirement of "hard" to prove it doesn't.

I have similar information from Sherwin Williams for one of their Epoxy Paints, but no such data from a VWC company.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 367
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ceilume has a new wall covering that is smooth, hard, and non-absorbent. It is a rigid vinyl panel, 0.030 inch thick, nominal 24 x 24 inches. The innovation is that it has overlapping edges that will shed urine, water, or cleaning solutions. Available in two decorative patterns with shallow embossed surface, and seven colors that I would recommend for urine resistance. It is not on their website yet; write pro@ceilume.com or call 877-492-5605 for more info and samples and ask for David or Ben. Or call me at 818 219 4937 or michael@chusid.com.

Full disclosure - I am a consultant to the firm.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, NCARB
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1858
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

How about Koroseal, they manuf aome VWC products, If he's still there, David DelGrosso is a regional manager, at least 7 years ago, but he was with the firm 17 years. I haven't specified VWC much, leave it to the ID, too much litigation concerns.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 368
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 02:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Testing Procedure?

In a previous post, I said the overlapping edges of my client's rigid vinyl panels will shed water. While gross water will be shed, I want to make sure there are not other paths for water to penetrate into substrate.

Is there a suitable test protocol to demonstrate whether there is moisture migration behind the panel due to capillary action, wicking, air pressure, or other forces?

What protocol should I use to determine potential for condensation on back of panels due to thermal gradient of exterior walls?

What other testing or demonstration do you recommend?
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru

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