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Robin E. Snyder
Senior Member
Username: robin

Post Number: 710
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, December 04, 2017 - 12:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Apparently Perimate isn't available until early 2018 - what do you all specify for insulating below grade vertical walls? Is 25psi compressive strength generally acceptable for below grade insulation (v perimate's 30 psi)?
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting

Post Number: 244
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Monday, December 04, 2017 - 11:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

In the Mid-Atlantic region, Type IV Extruded Polystyrene Board (25-psi compressive strength) is most common. That's what Perimate is, but many manufacturers offer this.
Jeffrey Wilson CCS CSI SCIP
Wilson Consulting Inc
Ardmore PA
Sheldon Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 999
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Monday, December 04, 2017 - 07:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Perimate has grooves to improve drainage. I don't see much value there if you're using drainage fill or drainage composite.

I'm not convinced a higher compressive strength is required below grade, especially for vertical applications. A compressive strength of 25 psi is the same as 3,600 psf; ask your engineer what the lateral pressure is at the footing.
Paul Sweet (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Polystyrene beadboard used to be used. I remember one project on a farm where they had a flock of peacocks who loved the stuff! I think that termites & other critters might also like it.

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