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Author Message Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 813 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2017 - 10:39 am:    Good morning, A client is searching for an alternate paint product as a potential VE item. Do you have experience in Airlite paint product? http://www.airlite.com/ We do know it is expensive. Apparently it's like 150 bucks a gallon, +/-. Painter and the manufacturer says it is only sold in Europe, but this is unconfirmed. Anecdotally, the install technique is very unforgiving. Every day a new and unusual can't be beat product appears on my radar. Time to get on my Harley and ride, ride, ride away from everything. Or become a ski bum. Again. Thanks, Wayne James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 208 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2017 - 09:40 am:    Sherwin-Williams seems to have a similar product, Paint Shield, touted as a microbicidal paint. I am not aware that any of our clients have requested it. Justatim Senior Member Username: justatim Post Number: 96 Registered: 04-2010 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 10:53 am:    Unnecessary use of antibiotics has become a major healthcare concern, because bacteria and other microbes are becoming immune due to their overuse. (Microbes evolve quicker than humans.) I read that Kaiser Permanente is now prohibiting such paints in its facilities. Here is a link to a TED talk by England's Chief Medical Officer: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7evvWt8XN7o Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: michael_chusid Post Number: 266 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 01:55 pm:    Justatim - Thank you for raising the issue of Antibiotic Resistant Microbes (ARM). I fear this issue will grow to horrific proportions. While most of the harm is due to abuse in livestock and medical use, the building industry must carefully examine our practices. Silver is well known for its antimicrobial properties. Yet last month we learned that, "broad-spectrum antimicrobial effectiveness of silver is being put at risk by the widespread and inappropriate expansion of nanosilver use in medical and consumer goods." phys.org/news/2017-03-rampant-antibacterial-nanosilver-resistance.html#jCp Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru 818-219-4937 James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 209 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 09:48 am:    Thanks for the link, Michael. Notice I wrote I was not aware that any of our clients (healthcare) have requested this product. They are acutely aware of the dangers of going overboard on anti-microbial products. I also get the sense they would rather rely on proper disinfecting procedures and not have their staff become indolent about these procedures believing that certain products would "take care of things." Phil Kabza Senior Member Username: phil_kabza Post Number: 579 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 02:11 pm:    Microbicidal is not to be confused with antimicrobial. Two very different mechanisms at work. The latter utilizes antibiotics, with the related concerns noted above; the former utilizes other chemical mechanisms such as the one discussed here: http://www.swpaintshield.com/science/ James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 210 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2017 - 09:25 am:    Phil is correct. "Quats" have been used for years for sterilizing things like catheters seemingly with no major ill effects. Silver ions also have a different mechanism than traditional anitbiotics but the link Mr. Chusid provided gives some food for thought. My biology degree is almost 35 years old and I haven't kept up with the field as well as some of my colleagues who stayed in research and medicine but I do believe organisms have the ability to adapt to certain things (usually) and those that replicate as frequently as bacteria and viruses will adapt most readily. I do give credence to the thinking of the epidemiologist that are employed by my clients.