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Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap
Senior Member
Username: lgoodrob

Post Number: 305
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 03:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Yes, I have a design Architect who wants me to specify a shipping container. I think the facility owner wants to keep it on site as storage forever. Maybe because they look so cool?

In what Section would you put this? Maybe 133000 Special Structures?

Planning for the future, have you ever specified a shipping container to use as part of the architecture? Or could I pass that off to the Structural Engineer?
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Liz O'Sullivan
Senior Member
Username: liz_osullivan

Post Number: 216
Registered: 10-2011


Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 03:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I've done this. It was quite a challenge. One thing to check out: http://www.isbu-association.org/

Also, I'm sending you an email.
David E Lorenzini
Senior Member
Username: deloren

Post Number: 178
Registered: 04-2000


Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 04:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Lisa

Check with Derrick Steltzer at Jacobs Engineering in Arlington, VA. He was part of a 4-man team who made a presentation at the Northern Virginia Chapter CSI on April 13, 2016 regarding the use of shipping containers to temporarily replace airport control towers. The towers were about 3 stories high and were oriented are right angles to each other. The towers included the stair and solutions for electrical and mechanical. They complied with code and seismic conditions, and are being used within USA and in some territories. If Derrick is not available, check with Lois DaCrema, a former member of our chapter.
David Lorenzini, FCSI, CCS
Architectural Resources Co.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1519
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 04:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Lisa,

I recommend to check around your project location and see if there are new/used shipping containers available for rent or purchase.

I live five miles from the Port of Seattle, so shipping containers are prevalent. Out here, contractors use shipping containers for storage and pedestrian walkway protection.

I would not recommend writing a spec for the shipping containers. Have the Owner purchase the containers directly from the distributor and have the container delivered to the job site.

http://dryboxusa.com/buy-a-container/
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap
Senior Member
Username: lgoodrob

Post Number: 306
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 03:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thank you! Great ideas all.

This is a public school project. I think the school facilities people want to include the shipping container in the construction budget. I'm sure I have no influence about whether it would be better to rent, buy, or borrow.

I do expect to have a future request for building with and modifying shipping containers, so your responses will be helpful when that happens.
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Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 224
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 04:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

ISO 668:2013 Series 1 freight containers—Classification, dimensions and ratings

ISO 1496-1:2013 Series 1 freight containers—Specification and testing—Part 1: General cargo containers for general purposes
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru 818-219-4937
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1530
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 05:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am working on a project where the architect wants me to specify shipping containers. The project is a school in Tacoma near the Foss Waterway Seaport. The school will have a fishing / shipping theme throughout the building. We will be putting the small shipping containers in the library as reading rooms. I will post pictures when the project is complete.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1531
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 05:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Here is a shipping container on a school project that I worked on. This container holds emergency supplies such as nonperishable food, water, blankets, first aid kits, etc. The school is designated as an emergency shelter.

David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: bunzick

Post Number: 1699
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David, is the fencing to prevent grafitti? Extra security? It's somewhat bizarre to see a box in a cage.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 1532
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 01:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

John,
As you mentioned, fencing is extra security (belt and suspenders) in addition to deterring graffiti.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant
Axt Consulting LLC

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