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J. Peter Jordan
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Username: jpjordan

Post Number: 860
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2015 - 01:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am doing a public safety facility where we have a "Dark Room" (a dormitory space) where the Owner wants to use murphy beds. Does anyone have a spec you would like to share or a manufacturer you can point me to?
J. Peter Jordan
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Username: jpjordan

Post Number: 861
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2015 - 01:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Email me your guide spec at jpjordan@jordanconsultants.com
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wayne_yancey

Post Number: 751
Registered: 01-2008


Posted on Monday, August 10, 2015 - 01:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Peter,

I build a twin size Murphy bed from a set of plans that came with the Murphy Bed hardware. I suggest the hardware be in an appropriate Div 06 Section and the details (plans, profiles, etc) in the drawings. I have not seen a premanufactured MB. There are firms that will build them to comply with any design. However, perhaps big box outlets such as Mors Furniture have a ready made MB. Construction was easy. Lugging the pre-built sections up a flight of stairs to my 2nd floor was the hardest.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Username: michael_chusid

Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Monday, August 10, 2015 - 03:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

At summer camp, we had single beds that were supported by hinges to the wall and chains at the outside corners of the frame. (I suppose you could use legs that fold flat as an alternative to the chains.) The lifted into cavities in the wall. Add a piece of upholstery to the bottom of the bed frame and it looks all right.
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Richard A. Rosen, CSI, CCS, AIA
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Username: rarosen

Post Number: 119
Registered: 08-2006


Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 02:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Try "125426-Wall Beds and Murphy Beds" here at 4Specs. There are four manufacturers listed.
Richard A. Rosen, CSI, CCS, AIA
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Username: rarosen

Post Number: 120
Registered: 08-2006


Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 02:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sorry, I hit post too soon. From the a quick review of the four manufacturers sites it appears to me that this is a piece of furniture that comes to the site assembled or partially assembled and can be either surface mounted or installed in a wall recess. I would just specify it as furniture and be done with it.
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 174
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 08:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree with Mr. Rosen. Even though it is secured to a wall it is furniture like a sofa that converts into a bed. I guess Murphy's Law comes into play here.

I did run across an internet 'store' for Murphy beds called "A Bedder Way." Cute, huh?
Phil Kabza
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Username: phil_kabza

Post Number: 562
Registered: 12-2002


Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2015 - 06:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

There are small manufacturing shops all over the country that make Murphy beds. They purchase the hardware and fabricate the casework. Be sure to specify a mattress that is engineered for use in a Murphy bed - the proper Murphy bed mattress has longitudinal ties that keep the mattress from slowly misshaping while standing on its end; conventional mattresses will not last long.
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1441
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2015 - 12:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My first job working for someone other than my father (a carpet installer) was preparing drawings for a Custom Cabinet shop specializing in Murphy Bed configurations. The best part of the job was being able to enter the shop and watch the magic being created by these Austrian and German craftsman and of course the intoxicating aroma of fresh cut wood.

Other than the mattresses and exotic wood, all the other components were obtained from Germany. Their work was outstanding, their detailing impeccable, I learned a lot, perhaps that is why my first Architectural job had me detailing cabinetry and why to this day I admire woodworking.
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 175
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2015 - 01:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Jerome, I don't want to hi-jack this thread but you are so right. It is rare to top the pleasure of watching these craftsmen (craftswomen, crafts-persons) at their work and see the results. What is it about fine wood that seems to bring out the passion in those who work with it?

I guess that is why I swoon over wooden boats. :-)

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