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Robert Swan, FCSI, SCIP
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Username: robeswan

Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The architect is to:
Design Consultant shall review and approve such submittals, including shop drawings,
product data and samples, as may be required by the Design-Build Agreement or Design-Builder.
Design Consultant shall expeditiously inform Design-Builder of any revisions that are necessary
as a condition to Design Consultant's approval of submittals.Now how do I write the Submittal article?
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 1577
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

If the design-build agreement identifies specific submittals, include those, but if it's silent on specific submittals, then I would just not have a submittals article.

However, I would definitely have a Division 01 section on submittals, and stipulate how much time you want for review, the content and format of the various types of submittals, a list of those submittals that you will not review (e.g., SDSs), and all the other requirements typically found in a submittals section.
Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
Mark Gilligan SE,
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Username: mark_gilligan

Post Number: 929
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 03:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The requirement that "...Design Consultant shall expeditiously inform Design-Builder of any revisions that are necessary as a condition to Design Consultant's approval of submittals..." seems to make the design consultant for knowing much that he has no way of knowing.
Robert Swan, FCSI, SCIP
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Username: robeswan

Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 04:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The "Design-Builder" controls the 01 sections.
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 1805
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2020 - 01:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

This sounds to me like a simple requirement that the Design Consultant advise the Design Builder if a submittal needs to be revised or resubmitted. That's not really different than the normal submittal process. The submittal article I'd use would be the same as typical, with revisions only to reflect design-build contracting method.
Mark Gilligan SE,
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Username: mark_gilligan

Post Number: 932
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 02:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

In the world of design build the contractor is more likely to file a claim against the designer.

Consider the case where the preliminary design upon which the fixed cost was developed, did not identify all instances of an item. The contractor based his estimate on only those items explicitly shown but when the design is finalized there is more of some item the contractor will sue the designer for the cost of the additional items.

A preliminary structural design will not, cannot, show all of the secondary framing members. The contractor will not put in an allowance for these members and then will try to make the engineer responsible for the missing items.

The point is that in the context of a design build project a little paranoia may be appropriate.

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